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ORIGINAL: huangshan

Why am I not surprised this has been already politicized.

This is getting pretty predictable.

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well one of many things is he can suspend all elections and remain in power indefinately. Martial law can be instilled. fema can overtake all interstate travel and that is only a brief beginning. Google the national emergency powers and see what turns up

WOW! That sure is scary. If you would take the time to actually read the declaration you would know that is VERY specific. Here is the text of the declaration:

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 201 and 301 of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) and consistent with section 1135 of the Social Security Act (SSA), as amended (42 U.S.C. 1320b-5), do hereby find and proclaim that, given that the rapid increase in illness across the Nation may overburden health care resources and that the temporary waiver of certain standard Federal requirements may be warranted in order to enable U.S. health care facilities to implement emergency operations plans, the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic in the United States constitutes a national emergency. Accordingly, I hereby declare that the Secretary may exercise the authority under section 1135 of the SSA to temporarily waive or modify certain requirements of the Medicare, Medicaid, and State Children's Health Insurance programs and of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act Privacy Rule throughout the duration of the public health emergency declared in response to the 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic. In exercising this authority, the Secretary shall provide certification and advance written notice to the Congress as required by section 1135(d) of the SSA (42 U.S.C. 1320b-5(d)).

The declaration is very specific as to what it allows, and it requires that the advance notice of any action taken under the declaration be reported to congress.

In addition, if you would actually read the provisions of the National Emergencies Act you would know that your other claims are simply not true.

Here's a link to a lengthy congressional review of Presidential emergency powers Congressional Research Service PDF: Emergency Powers which notes that "There are, however, limits and restraints upon the President in his exercise of emergency powers. With the exception of the habeas corpus clause, the Constitution makes no allowance for the suspension of any of its provisions during a national emergency. Disputes over the constitutionality or legality of the exercise of emergency powers are judicially reviewable. Indeed, both the judiciary and Congress, as co-equal branches, can restrain the executive regarding emergency powers."

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ORIGINAL: buckifn

I think it's odd 1,000 deaths constitutes a "national emergency" when it comes to swine flu..esp. when considering the total population is approp.307,775,739.

Not to mention the global murder of 115,000 babies per day through abortions and approx 42 million per year.


In the US alone that is 3,288 killed per day 137 per hour and 9 abortions every 4 minute.

That's based on stats from Am Life League Oct. 2005

Wonder why there is no "national emergency" in those numbers?

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gc are you saying it is a lie Military law cannot be imposed and FEMA cannot overtake interstate travel ? I'd say you need to read further. It clearly can happen within a "state of national emergency" context.

Just because it may not happen today doesn't mean it isn't a provision .

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President Obama declares national emergency over swine flu pandemic; but why?

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(NaturalNews) According to the CDC, swine flu infections have already peaked, and the pandemic is on its way out. Peak infection time was the middle of October, where one in five U.S. children experienced the flu, says the CDC. Out of nearly 14,000 suspected flu cases tested during the week ending on October 10, 2009, 99.6% of those were influenza A, and the vast majority of those were confirmed as H1N1 swine flu infections. (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/)

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According to the White House, it's designed to "allow hospitals to better handle the surge in patients" by allowing them to bypass certain federal laws.

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swine flu
Profit Driven Swine Flu Propaganda - Pump Up the Volume Part 1

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(NaturalNews) The pharmaceutical industry, with public health officials and the mainstream media acting as a mass marketing team, is about to pull off the biggest profiteering scheme in the history of the world. The swine flu hoax, perpetrated on a global level, will generate unheard of profits from a non-existent pandemic.

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President Obama declares national emergency over swine flu pandemic; but why?

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(NaturalNews) According to the CDC, swine flu infections have already peaked, and the pandemic is on its way out. Peak infection time was the middle of October, where one in five U.S. children experienced the flu, says the CDC. Out of nearly 14,000 suspected flu cases tested during the week ending on October 10, 2009, 99.6% of those were influenza A, and the vast majority of those were confirmed as H1N1 swine flu infections. (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/)
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According to the White House, it's designed to "allow hospitals to better handle the surge in patients" by allowing them to bypass certain federal laws.

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ORIGINAL: buckifn

People are gonna believe what they wanna believe "shrug" always has and always will be that way.

The thing is to call one a liar for saying what has been documented in writing just doesn't cut it. I would not trust the CDC on this matter under any circumstances. Anyone who reads much at all in the news today KNOWS there are going to be HUGE profits made by the whole swine flu saga esp. the meds to supposedly "counteract" it.

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You don't need a lot of intelligence to know that.

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(NaturalNews)The pharmaceutical industry, with public health officials and the mainstream media acting as a mass marketing team, is about to pull off the biggest profiteering scheme in the history of the world. The swine flu hoax, perpetrated on a global level, will generate unheard of profits from a non-existent pandemic.

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ORIGINAL: purnhart

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_swine_flu

President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency and empowered his health secretary to suspend federal guidelines at hospitals and speed up how infected people might receive treatment in a disaster.

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He is the most unpresidential man I've ever seen occupy the presidency.

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And there are those who notice but deny it.

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

Why am I not surprised that Obama and his henchmen (women) are just taking another step to bypass the constitution and its protection and freedom for we citizens.

As "Dead Fish" Rohn Emanuel says, never let a disaster go to waste, and if there is no disaster; then create one.

Thanks
RC

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Anyone who does any research at all can't help but find the clues as to what is happening in our gov. offices. Some just choose to live in denial. History shows it has always been that way.

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What's ironic is that these cryptic remarks about history and "what is happening in our government" are identical to the comments that the left was making for 8 years in reference to the policies of the Bush administration.

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ORIGINAL: buckifn

well one of many things is he can suspend all elections and remain in power indefinately. Martial law can be instilled. fema can overtake all interstate travel and that is only a brief beginning. Google the national emergency powers and see what turns up

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There are some questions concerning the saftey of the innoculation......

and Obama has decided his kids will not take the shot.

Makes ya wonder a little bit.