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Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN?
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 2:51:40 PM
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Mollymouser
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Interesting perspective here...
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Can I Change Your Mind About Halloween?
Julie Ferwerda - Crosswalk.com Contributing Writer
If you want to throw a nice wholesome party on Halloween including nice wholesome costumes… hey, why not? What's the harm when your motives (and behaviors) are exemplary? Might even be a good witness. People can observe Christians having good, clean fun especially when churches offer alternative celebrations for their members and community.
That's all what I used to think.
To be honest, I really don't care much about the pagan origins of Halloween in ages past. It's not like most of us are even aware of them, and what do they really have to do with current times? Not exactly a motivating reason to change my lifestyle. But what I have come to care about is what Halloween stands for now, based on a few of my own observations:
In every neighborhood of every town of every state of our country during this celebrated week (and a few other countries as well), you'll find dark, scary decorations. Big hairy spiders in webs, hideous green witches donned in black, skeletons, haunted houses, coffins, bats… nothing is too dark or too evil to display. And don't forget the sweet little kids dressed as Grim Reapers, ghosts, vampires, werewolves, and Freddy Kruegers.
Type "Halloween Crimes News" into Google, and you’ll get 349,000 results. There's a huge influx in alcohol and drug related revelry and crime that police departments far and wide refer to as "pandemonium," requiring increased police reinforcement.[1]
Read the rest of Can I Change Your Mind About Halloween?
Good article ... thanks for linking it in this thread.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 2:54:29 PM
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Interesting how someone was kind enough to paste some key verses from God's eternal and authoratative word and then there's a line of comments by others that instead lean on what "they think", lol. So much for surrendering to the Lordship of Christ, lol. Hey guys, I know God says this over here, but since my heart isn't deceitful and desparately wicked, let me just tell you what I think about it. I mean, what the harm, it's all innocent! My neighbors and Letterman might use it as ammunition...please stop with the Jesus stuff..they might make fun of me!
Cmon people..are you surrendered and living for the Lord, or is this still about "you" and what "you" think? Father, help us to submit to Your plan, Your Son and Your infinite wisdom, that we might be a holy people, set apart for your purposes and not falling into all kinds of deception. Help us to take ourselves more lightly and You more seriously, instead of the opposite. In Jesus name. amen.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 3:25:18 PM
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Interesting perspective here...
Can I Change Your Mind About Halloween?
Julie Ferwerda - Crosswalk.com Contributing Writer
I'm not that impressed by this article. It's not really original, and frankly it's not the best of its type. It's a little lazy on the research.
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Type "Halloween Crimes News" into Google, and you’ll get 349,000 results. There's a huge influx in alcohol and drug related revelry and crime that police departments far and wide refer to as "pandemonium," requiring increased police reinforcement.
Google hits indicate the presence of the keyword term, not the accuracy of the information or a reflection of its actual incidence. No doubt Halloween is used as an excuse for mischief or crime by some, just as some people use New Years Eve as an excuse to drink. We should certainly use common sense precautions, but we shouldn't allow what we do to be driven by fear, particularly when it grows out of either urban legends or media exaggeration.
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The dictionary defines "hallowed," from which the word, "Halloween" comes, as holy, consecrated, sacred, revered.[3] In my mind, that opens up the question, "Who is being worshiped and revered on Halloween?"
Holiday also comes from the same root..."holy day". But when I get off work for the Spring Holiday, I'm not celebrating spring. My British friend uses the term "holiday" to mean vacation, but he's not worshiping anything when he goes "on holiday." Etymology doesn't always reflect current meaning.
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On the Satanic Calendar, Halloween is one of the most significant nights of the year when "attempts are made to break the bond which is keeping the doors to the underworld closed.
There's a lot of misinformation out there about satanism, neo-pagan faiths, and historical paganism.
Here's a link to an extensive article from a non-sectarian perspective that has a lot of interesting information about the historical record of paganism and the reality of current pagan faiths. It also gives some information about the news record for candy poisonings/tampering and animal abuse.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hallowee.htm
I don't have a problem with anyone deciding not to celebrate or observe Halloween. I also don't fault anyone for coming to the conclusion that they can participate in the secular fun of the current holiday without endangering their immortal soul. It's one of those "eating meat offered to idols" type issues in my eyes.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 3:57:14 PM
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Interesting how someone was kind enough to paste some key verses from God's eternal and authoratative word and then there's a line of comments by others that instead lean on what "they think", lol. So much for surrendering to the Lordship of Christ, lol. Hey guys, I know God says this over here, but since my heart isn't deceitful and desparately wicked, let me just tell you what I think about it. I mean, what the harm, it's all innocent! My neighbors and Letterman might use it as ammunition...please stop with the Jesus stuff..they might make fun of me!
Cmon people..are you surrendered and living for the Lord, or is this still about "you" and what "you" think?
Do you celebrate the 4th of July? How about Thanksgiving?
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 4:14:59 PM
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Cmon people..are you surrendered and living for the Lord, or is this still about "you" and what "you" think? Father, help us to submit to Your plan, Your Son and Your infinite wisdom, that we might be a holy people, set apart for your purposes and not falling into all kinds of deception. Help us to take ourselves more lightly and You more seriously, instead of the opposite. In Jesus name. amen.
I say Amen!! to this prayer
And then I question... what motive must I have to buy candy and allow my child to dress in a (non-demonic costume mind you  ) Is it to glorify the world? things that are inherently evil? is it to bring shame to Christ? Then I ask has God quickened my heart and I'm being disobedient to His Word? Is buying candy more important than obedience  Those are things that I seriously consider and yeah, it's just not that serious, to me.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 4:52:11 PM
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Type "Halloween Crimes News" into Google, and you’ll get 349,000 results. There's a huge influx in alcohol and drug related revelry and crime that police departments far and wide refer to as "pandemonium," requiring increased police reinforcement.[1]
The reference just leads back to itself. What's the source for these figures? I can type any holiday into Google and get jillions of hits.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 4:52:46 PM
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I couldn't vote. Halloween makes my head reel.
I grew up in rural America where Halloween was a fun holiday. We dressed up, went to neighbors, grandparents, and made it a time of fun, friendly socializing. A small treat such as a popcorn ball or an apple were real treats! We carved jackolanterns and just enjoyed the holiday.
Then I was taught the evil of Halloween. Carved pumpkins enticed spirits and on and on and on. So I put all of my Halloween things away.
This year I pulled out my tin pumpkins with faces and hung them by the door again. I think I'm going to bring up my pumpkins that hold tea lights as well.
Scrooge stole this holiday and I'm taking it back. (BTW. where's a pumpkin smiley when I need one?)
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 4:57:01 PM
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I grew up doing the whole Reformation Day thing, too. 
Then as a grown up, we went to Harvest Festivals, which seemed to be even more pagan than Halloween.
For many years, we've avoided Halloween mainly b/c of the cost of candy and both of us working and not getting home until the kids are in full swing...blah, blah, blah
Last year, I handed out candy and got to meet our neighbors. It was great!
Our town is fairly small and this year they're having a townwide event since it's on a Saturday. Our missional community is going to get involved and support the town with volunteers, etc. I think it'll be great fun and a wonderful way to meet new people.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:16:35 PM
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Thanks, Nige
My site is www.no-way-dude.com and there's actually a lesson up there under "Topical" about Halloween. I'm sure there are others, not on my site, too...Chuck Smith, etc.
Deal is, I actually know of some well respected pastors, such as Chuck Smith, that have said...sure, i don't see a problem with the kids dressing up in something non demonic to enjoy the holiday. Just understand that this is a pagan holiday and know its origins. this shouldn't be taken flippantly.
Personally, I'm fine with that, too. I just think it says a lot when I read some of these posts. Nobody has yet said anything negative to me about this post, but in life, I have challenged, biblically, those that claim to be Christians and are compromised all over the place. They don't want to make waves. They would rather disobey God when scripture says to discerningly "remove the wicked man", with regard to a so-called believer that is an idolator or sexually immoral, etc.
What I'd say is, get a spine for Jesus, people pleasers. Offend God and please man or offend man and please God in certain situations. There's a ton of compromised so called believers out there and let's face it...Jesus said, when the salt loses it's saltiness, what good is it?
I have met so called believers that will be disobedient rather than submit to scripture. That is weak, people! Call me what you want. I get the Love part, i get it. I can always grow and God is still working on me. I must say, in the same breath, to get a spine, though, for Jesus. Weak! lol
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:17:32 PM
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The church I was in used it as a time to get children to come to the church by offering a house of horrors in the basement. Because I had been involved in the occult, I was the main one asked to help with ideas, props, art work, etc. Now, I find that interesting. And horrifying.
So when I started feeling convicted about it, I expressed my concerns and they attempted to embarrass me by saying that I was a party-pooper, and that I should care more about getting the children into the church than I did about such concerns. I find that interesting, too. But they were able to talk me into it "for the sake of the souls of the children in Minneapolis." But I told them, "This is it. I am not helping next year."
The next year, I didn't help. They tried to shame me again. It didn't work.
When I moved back home a couple years or so later, it started all over again -- the shaming for caring more about my ethics than I did about the souls of the children. Was I shamed? No; I felt sorry for them. Four years later, I married and moved here. History repeated. Amazing.
My bottom line is that people glorify death, gore, and all things ugly with this holiday. Why should we, who are believers, participate in that? Death, sickness, gore, and all things unseemly are satan's specialty. What business do we who are walking in the light have with darkness, which halloween exalts?
And look at the health issues -- all that candy. Look at the yearly trembling we parents and grandparents have when we face the possibility of the crimes that may be pertetrated against those we love, yet we submit them to it. Why?
You would like to have a costume party? Great! You don't need halloween to do that; do it anytime. Want an excuse? There is a holiday that is in the Bible for which it is traditional to dress in costume: Purim. Read Esther 9:1, 17, 22. So have a blast! You can learn how on the Internet by looking up Purim.
Want to party? Do Sukkot. That is an 8-day party, which happens to be going on right now. Rather than looking at death and gore, it looks at our future with the L-rd, enjoying life, enjoying the L-rd and one another. There's food, desserts, games, chat, etc. And many of us also celebrate our L-rd coming to earth as an infant at that time, experiencing telling about it outside in a temporary hut, where most of the other activities are also. Look Sukkot up in the Internet to learn how.
Wouldn't it be great if we gave glory to G-d in all our celebrations? If they all celebrated Him?
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:22:15 PM
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The church I was in used it as a time to get children to come to the church by offering a house of horrors in the basement. Because I had been involved in the occult, I was the main one asked to help with ideas, props, art work, etc. Now, I find that interesting. And horrifying.
So when I started feeling convicted about it, I expressed my concerns and they attempted to embarrass me by saying that I was a party-pooper, and that I should care more about getting the children into the church than I did about such concerns. I find that interesting, too. But they were able to talk me into it "for the sake of the souls of the children in Minneapolis." But I told them, "This is it. I am not helping next year."
The next year, I didn't help. They tried to shame me again. It didn't work.
When I moved back home a couple years or so later, it started all over again -- the shaming for caring more about my ethics than I did about the souls of the children. Was I shamed? No; I felt sorry for them. Four years later, I married and moved here. History repeated. Amazing.
My bottom line is that people glorify death, gore, and all things ugly with this holiday. Why should we, who are believers, participate in that? Death, sickness, gore, and all things unseemly are satan's specialty. What business do we who are walking in the light have with darkness, which halloween exalts?
And look at the health issues -- all that candy. Look at the yearly trembling we parents and grandparents have when we face the possibility of the crimes that may be pertetrated against those we love, yet we submit them to it. Why?
You would like to have a costume party? Great! You don't need halloween to do that; do it anytime. Want an excuse? There is a holiday that is in the Bible for which it is traditional to dress in costume: Purim. Read Esther 9:1, 17, 22. So have a blast! You can learn how on the Internet by looking up Purim.
Want to party? Do Sukkot. That is an 8-day party, which happens to be going on right now. Rather than looking at death and gore, it looks at our future with the L-rd, enjoying life, enjoying the L-rd and one another. There's food, desserts, games, chat, etc. And many of us also celebrate our L-rd coming to earth as an infant at that time, experiencing telling about it outside in a temporary hut, where most of the other activities are also. Look Sukkot up in the Internet to learn how.
Wouldn't it be great if we gave glory to G-d in all our celebrations? If they all celebrated Him?
Great post. 
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:45:01 PM
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Great post and great input, thank you ! You put it how I would love to have put it - "Death, sickness, gore, and all things unseemly are satan's specialty. What business do we who are walking in the light have with darkness, which halloween exalts ?". And for those who would claim that Halloween does not exalt those matters, why is it the TV lineup is horror after horror rather than Charlie and the chocolate factory ? Now if some may say - no,- it doesn't exalt it, it makes fun of the fear that paganism instructed people to beleive (and is the case today - make light of it), I would have to ask myself a slighly deeper question than the topic title, = should we as Christians be mocking pagan concepts or more importantly, - should we be mocking and making fun of the forces of darkness ? Is it our business to do so ?
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The church I was in used it as a time to get children to come to the church by offering a house of horrors in the basement. Because I had been involved in the occult, I was the main one asked to help with ideas, props, art work, etc. Now, I find that interesting. And horrifying.
So when I started feeling convicted about it, I expressed my concerns and they attempted to embarrass me by saying that I was a party-pooper, and that I should care more about getting the children into the church than I did about such concerns. I find that interesting, too. But they were able to talk me into it "for the sake of the souls of the children in Minneapolis." But I told them, "This is it. I am not helping next year."
The next year, I didn't help. They tried to shame me again. It didn't work.
When I moved back home a couple years or so later, it started all over again -- the shaming for caring more about my ethics than I did about the souls of the children. Was I shamed? No; I felt sorry for them. Four years later, I married and moved here. History repeated. Amazing.
My bottom line is that people glorify death, gore, and all things ugly with this holiday. Why should we, who are believers, participate in that? Death, sickness, gore, and all things unseemly are satan's specialty. What business do we who are walking in the light have with darkness, which halloween exalts?
And look at the health issues -- all that candy. Look at the yearly trembling we parents and grandparents have when we face the possibility of the crimes that may be pertetrated against those we love, yet we submit them to it. Why?
You would like to have a costume party? Great! You don't need halloween to do that; do it anytime. Want an excuse? There is a holiday that is in the Bible for which it is traditional to dress in costume: Purim. Read Esther 9:1, 17, 22. So have a blast! You can learn how on the Internet by looking up Purim.
Want to party? Do Sukkot. That is an 8-day party, which happens to be going on right now. Rather than looking at death and gore, it looks at our future with the L-rd, enjoying life, enjoying the L-rd and one another. There's food, desserts, games, chat, etc. And many of us also celebrate our L-rd coming to earth as an infant at that time, experiencing telling about it outside in a temporary hut, where most of the other activities are also. Look Sukkot up in the Internet to learn how.
Wouldn't it be great if we gave glory to G-d in all our celebrations? If they all celebrated Him?
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:49:25 PM
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by the way, as we are all sharing our thoughts and opinions here , could we please also welcome diskdemo who shared with us his first post here on this thread ! Thanks for your input !
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:49:53 PM
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And for those who would claim that Halloween does not exalt those matters, why is it the TV lineup is horror after horror rather than Charlie and the chocolate factory ?
So, why not ditch the horror movies, pop in a "family friendly" one and enjoy the free candy
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 5:50:28 PM
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You would like to have a costume party? Great! You don't need halloween to do that; do it anytime. Want an excuse? There is a holiday that is in the Bible for which it is traditional to dress in costume: Purim. Read Esther 9:1, 17, 22. So have a blast! You can learn how on the Internet by looking up Purim.
Excellent idea, Abiyah!
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 6:05:37 PM
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Why not participate and celebrate the pagan halloween thing..the christian community seems to enjoy all the worldly pagan days such as dec 25th and easter as well!
Know the truth and it will set you free
Remember the Sabbath to keep Holy
God bless us all.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 6:23:01 PM
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So, why not ditch the horror movies, pop in a "family friendly" one and enjoy the free candy
Exactly, but it doesn't stop me for praying for freinds who are getting into an evening with the exorcist.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 6:25:07 PM
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Amen !! The Christmas tree went out years ago.... and as for bunnys and eggs, well... them too.
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Why not participate and celebrate the pagan halloween thing..the christian community seems to enjoy all the worldly pagan days such as dec 25th and easter as well!
Know the truth and it will set you free
Remember the Sabbath to keep Holy
God bless us all.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 7:16:55 PM
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Why not participate and celebrate the pagan halloween thing..the christian community seems to enjoy all the worldly pagan days such as dec 25th and easter as well!
Know the truth and it will set you free
Remember the Sabbath to keep Holy
God bless us all.
How is it pagan? There is no worship going on, no acknowledgment of pagan deities.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 7:23:41 PM
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And look at the health issues -- all that candy.
Do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
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Look at the yearly trembling we parents and grandparents have when we face the possibility of the crimes that may be pertetrated against those we love, yet we submit them to it. Why?
So it's a sin to raise children in the inner city?
I respect your personal conviction. I'm not saying it should change. But I hope you realize that it's just that - a personal conviction.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 7:27:49 PM
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'Cause sex-and-gore sells a lot better than just plain old gore, it seems.  Sexy devil, sexy witch, sexy fairy, sexy pirate, sexy vampire, sexy Greek goddess, sexy police officer... 
and for THAT i take my hat off and salute the stars and stripes, while wiping a tear away, and declare "God... Bless... America!" halloween is the one day of the year females can get away with being scantilly clad, and i oblige them
at 'the store' my wife works in this department and shes always sending me pictures of the newest sexy costumes. fun times.
I trust you are joking? In all respects?
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 7:32:10 PM
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Wouldn't it be great if we gave glory to G-d in all our celebrations? If they all celebrated Him?
I vote for this answer. Can we add it to the poll?
And ya know, we can. And what C_M said is exactly the place I have come to in my life. I can glorify God in all I do, wherever I am, whoever I am with! It changes the world when I live this way. Every moment becomes His and He is everywhere present. . . and sometimes, yes, sometimes I'm very aware of Him! Every book I read, I look for Jesus. Every person, conversation, event, whatever, can be the opportunity to know Him more and make Him known.
That's the kind of presence we are to have in the world.
And I welcome the newcomers as well, diskdemo and Nige55! Glad to have you here.
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RE: Should Christians particpate in HALLOWEEN? - 10/6/2009 7:51:55 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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And look at the health issues -- all that candy.
Do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
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Look at the yearly trembling we parents and grandparents have when we face the possibility of the crimes that may be pertetrated against those we love, yet we submit them to it. Why?
So it's a sin to raise children in the inner city?
I respect your personal conviction. I'm not saying it should change. But I hope you realize that it's just that - a personal conviction.
Mr. Fribbles, there is a wise way to celebrate Thanksgiving Day, and there is a foolish way. Some of us do not pig out, but we do find it to be a day of making sure others eat. Some celebrate Thanksgiving in soup kitchens, others invite over people who need to be fed, some give to families. When I am at my kindest, I do not cook and invite people over: I am a terrible cook. My whole neighborhood knows when I am cooking by the smoke alarms going off.
Also, in my belief system, we have several thanksgiving days in the year, plus Thanksgiving Day.
But I have seen you around for a long time, and you're a smart person -- you already knew I would write that.
And you also already knew that I would write this: halloween crime does not just happen in the inner city. And you knew I would write this: that wise parents do all they can to protect their children, and will not allow their children to go out after dark without adult supervision. AND wise parents don't allow children to take candy from strangers.
NPR suggests that if you are going to allow the children to collect candy, set up a barter system by which the children buy privileges, family-game-playing, toys, etc. with the candy they get. You take the candy, remove the wrappers, and dig it deep into your garden, where it becomes food for the soil.
(Thank you, LiveLoved! )
< Message edited by Covaan_Meshuga -- 10/6/2009 7:58:26 PM >
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