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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 12:50:25 AM
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We use a retractable leash for our dog. Ours has a button you can click to lock it at a certain length so it won't retract/extend. When we are walking she has to walk right next to us, and we lock it very short if need be. When we let her go sniff at something we unlock the leash so she can roam a few feet. Ours only extends out to 16', so even at its longest she couldn't go too far.
My sister in law was a little Houdini when she was small. She could wiggle her way out of any harness/leash and be halfway across the store before you turned around.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 11:56:35 AM
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My sister in law was a little Houdini when she was small.
For us that was Hannah. She could be out of her five point harness car seat faster then I could get her into it. I would put it as tight as possible, where I could barely get one finger under the straps, and turn around when I got in and she would be halfway out already. MAN OH MAN!!!! That's when we really implemented our rule of safety related violations and discipline. We never really had issues with Jake in that department...I told him no, he stopped. Not Hannah!!!!
Now Justice is a little booger. He loves anything with wires and knows how to take off those plug covers. So I pretty much have to cover outlets with furniture so he can't get to them. He also loves to run off whenever possible. The other day we were out front cleaning up the yard and Jake went out of the fence to get the trash can. It was about 10 feet away, so he left the gate open so he could drag it through. Justice saw the open gate and took off for it from the other side of the yard. Jake was closer then I was so I yelled for Jake to catch him. Justice had run around the van once already before Jake could catch him. He is a very dangerous toddler. I am very glad we have a fully fenced in front yard!! As of right now, it is still easiest to have him in the stroller or shopping cart, so he has not tasted freedom yet and expects to be strapped down at those times. It will be a long time before I let him go in a store. Jack is 3yo now and we just started letting him out of the straps to walk sometimes. I make him wear his harness though and he holds my hand. For me, the harness/leash does not take the place of my holding his hand, it just allows me to have him attached in case he lets go and tries to run. If there is a struggle of him not wanting to hold my hand or finger though, back into the straps he goes (cart or stroller, whichever we have). I personally LOVE those shopping carts that you can put 2 or 3 or 4 kids into!!! YAY!!!!! I have purposely changed store before because of those things!!!
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 12:09:32 PM
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One of my kids is terrified of animals...
How are you helping her to get over that? Btw how old is she?
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 12:45:35 PM
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One of my kids is terrified of animals...
How are you helping her to get over that? Btw how old is she?
She is 8yo now (will be 9 in December). We have tried helping her for years now, and it is a slow process with her. The fair animal petting area story happened when she was...ummm....6 or so. When Jackson was a baby, so three years ago. She has been exposed to animals off and on throughout her whole life, and cat's really don't scare her, but any other animal does. She can't stand bugs either, so we often have her screaming through the house looking for Jake to take the big horrible bug outside....lol. She is getting better. We have learned what environments she can and can't handle. Last year I was very proud of her at the fair....I couldn't talk her into going in with the others, but after they went through she decided she wanted to try. So I walked through with just her that time. She was a bit edgy, but was ok. She wouldn't go anywhere near the miniature pony, but she loved looking at the baby chicks in the little area they had for them. She finally got brave enough to touch one miniature goat so I could get a picture. That was really the only reason she touched it...she wanted a picture to show Daddy (who wasn't there) that she had touched it!!! Another lady that was in there was really nice and helped her touch it so I could get a pic. So she is getting better. The only time she is scared of Zeke is when he is hyper, which like I said, is just when we first come in from anywhere. He isn't a hyper dog though so that helps. He also doesn't bark, so dogs that bark scare her sometimes. It really helps that our front yard is fenced so she can feel relatively safe and we can sit out there and talk about the animals that walk by and she still has that safety net of the fence that will keep her separated from them. She likes to go to the pet store and look at the animals behind the glass, so that is an improvement too. She now says she wants to be a vet when she grows up. I keep telling her that vets have to like animals, so she is trying to like them more and more. I think pretty soon she will be ready to go visit a farm...maybe we will go visit Erin soon and she can get to know her chickens.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 2:02:01 PM
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I absolutely think it's important for children and adults to not be afraid of animals, particularly dogs. Most dogs will not harm a person, but some are on the cusp and they can detect fear in humans and that can set them off.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 2:11:15 PM
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I absolutely think it's important for children and adults to not be afraid of animals, particularly dogs. Most dogs will not harm a person, but some are on the cusp and they can detect fear in humans and that can set them off.
How does one overcome the fear of animals...especially when they have been bitten?
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 2:36:32 PM
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It's mostly cognitive. For a child, that may mean getting a puppy and helping to raise and train it. For an adult, they'll have to find something that works for them. Any age can learn basic things about dogs--how not to show teeth, how not to look an aggressive dog in the eye, etc.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 2:47:30 PM
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Isabel got jumped on by a friends dog. Same height as her and she just got excited and jumped. Both paws on her shoulders and down she went. She's a little hesitant now around Sam. She's 14 months old now. She's not afraid of my mom's dog who is 60 pounds and tried to bite her. Go figure. I don't trust my moms dog and wouldn't have him in my home long if he were mine. But my mom doesn't have little kids over often so we just put him in the other area of the house.
I do not want Isabel afraid of animals so I hope that lots of introductions with as many different animals as possible helps.
And hopefully nothing traumatic ruins my plans!
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Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 3:34:02 PM
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Being raised around pets, I have been bitten more times than I can count. When I was about eight, I had a black lab try to bite my nose off. I still can't tweeze my eyebrows because of the scars. I have a lot of phobias, but I am so blessed to not have a fear of most animals. I have no idea why I never developed a fear of them. Just got blessed in that area.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 7:44:29 PM
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She has been exposed to animals off and on throughout her whole life, and cat's really don't scare her, but any other animal does.
Is she able to explain to you exactly what it is she is afraid of? Is it the noise maybe, or the seemingly unpredictable behaviour, or ....? You said she is afraid of Zeke when he is hyper - has she ever told you what she particularly doesn't like when he is like that?
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She can't stand bugs either, so we often have her screaming through the house looking for Jake to take the big horrible bug outside....lol.
My dd was the same at that age, and we gradually got her used to how to at least get them out of her room (glass and piece of card) without screaming!
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He also doesn't bark, so dogs that bark scare her sometimes.
Is she scared by the noises of any other animal, or just dogs?
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It really helps that our front yard is fenced so she can feel relatively safe and we can sit out there and talk about the animals that walk by and she still has that safety net of the fence that will keep her separated from them. She likes to go to the pet store and look at the animals behind the glass, so that is an improvement too. She now says she wants to be a vet when she grows up. I keep telling her that vets have to like animals, so she is trying to like them more and more. I think pretty soon she will be ready to go visit a farm...maybe we will go visit Erin soon and she can get to know her chickens.
I think you are doing really well slowly acclimatising her and helping make little steps forward to overcome her fear. 
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 7:53:12 PM
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How does one overcome the fear of animals...especially when they have been bitten?
I was at a friend's house when I was 7 or 8, and was knocked off my scooter by a large Alsatian who basically ran at me barking, jumped at me and bit me on the shoulder. My mum explained to me why it had happened (he didn't know me and was protecting his owner's property) and told me he just didn't realise I was visiting.
Mum was also the sort of mum not to let me have a fear that disabled me, a kind of "get back on the horse" kind of mum, so that likely helped me too, since I most certainly did not develop a fear of dogs from that event.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 9/4/2009 8:57:03 PM
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She has been exposed to animals off and on throughout her whole life, and cat's really don't scare her, but any other animal does.
Is she able to explain to you exactly what it is she is afraid of? Is it the noise maybe, or the seemingly unpredictable behaviour, or ....? You said she is afraid of Zeke when he is hyper - has she ever told you what she particularly doesn't like when he is like that?
I think it's the unpredictable nature of animals. She just gets freaked out very easily when they move unexpectedly, or make noise unexpectedly, etc. For a long time we thought it was related to her size (because she is and has always been small- wore about a size 9mo clothes until she was 3yo). Since she has gotten older thus bigger, I am not sure if it still plays off of that old natural instinct of hers or if it truly is an issue still.
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She can't stand bugs either, so we often have her screaming through the house looking for Jake to take the big horrible bug outside....lol.
My dd was the same at that age, and we gradually got her used to how to at least get them out of her room (glass and piece of card) without screaming!
roflol....well, I can't say I am much better. I HATE bugs!!!! I don't go screaming through the house though....lol
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He also doesn't bark, so dogs that bark scare her sometimes.
Is she scared by the noises of any other animal, or just dogs?
Pretty much any animals. A few months ago when I was at my moms, we were driving down the road and saw a horse drawn wagon trudging down the road. So we went where we were supposed to go, then when we headed out we saw it again. So the kids talked me into stopping. The guys were great and were letting the kids get out and pet the horses, etc. They were just great horses...beautiful!!! Hannah wanted to get out and see them, so I held her hand and she (shaking a bit) walked over gripping my hand in hers. She was fine with just watching them from a few feet away until one neighed...then she ran back to the safety of the van. So it could be the noise, but it could just be the unpredictable nature of the animals. Or it could be the size, cause they were huge horses...their shoulder blades were taller then my head.
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It really helps that our front yard is fenced so she can feel relatively safe and we can sit out there and talk about the animals that walk by and she still has that safety net of the fence that will keep her separated from them. She likes to go to the pet store and look at the animals behind the glass, so that is an improvement too. She now says she wants to be a vet when she grows up. I keep telling her that vets have to like animals, so she is trying to like them more and more. I think pretty soon she will be ready to go visit a farm...maybe we will go visit Erin soon and she can get to know her chickens.
I think you are doing really well slowly acclimatising her and helping make little steps forward to overcome her fear.
Thank you Manda!!! It is hard to take it so slow sometimes, but really I don't want to scar her for life, I want her to learn how far her own comfort zone really is. Thank you for your comments though!!! I really appreciate others wisdom in areas like this, especially when I myself have so many issues with fears and anxiety. Sometimes I just don't know how to help her because I can't even get over it myself (like with Emma and water...I am so terrified that I can't deal with her when it comes to water).
oh and she loves to watch animal shows on tv...she knows a lot about animals and can tell you things, but she just doesn't deal well with the life experience of animals...lol
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