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Kicka #6 - 8/30/2009 10:26:01 PM
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Kicka #5 has reached 100 pages so it's time for Kicka #6.
Here is a short summary of what Kicka is:
1. Kicka is a thread where you can discuss what's going on, issues going on, in-depth things you've been thinking about...whatever is on your mind.
2. This is a stickier point and I think that now most people do understand what this means and doesn't mean:
It's a fact there are any number of women on these forums who are engaged in a struggle to conceive a child. Due to sensitivities toward those women, I did ask that people not turn Kicka into "Here's what I do to get my child to sleep at night" or "When did you first feel your baby kick?"
It's not that those types of discussions aren't valid -- they absolutely ARE, and I understand why people have those discussions. HOWEVER, there are threads specifically designed for topics like that (the pregnancy thread, the post-partum thread, the breastfeeding thread, etc.) that are custom-made for women to discuss any and all issues pregnancy and child related.
What I have asked here in Kicka is merely that if you want to come here and talk about your child turning over for the first time -- that's great! We can celebrate that milestone with you, but let's not let that segue into the topic of the day. You ARE welcome to mention your pregnancy or mention your children. It's just if you're looking for lots of discussion or advice on those subjects, please see the corresponding threads in the Women Only folder instead.
Infertile people deal with other people's pregnancies and babies and children all the time. It's part of their life. But I just wanted to make sure we had a chat space here that wasn't child-centric or pregnancy-centric. If I am being unclear please let me know and I will offer further explanation.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 9:59:47 AM
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I know someone who has had it. The flu hit her pretty hard, but what was worse was the secondary (chest) infection. She stayed off work the first week when she was contagious, but then returned, until she went to her doctor who told her she needed more time off.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 12:08:11 PM
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Do you have the same symptoms as other flu's? Last year many kids were sick aorund here and a few were diagnosed, not in our town, but ones close by. Anyway, ds caught whateve was goign on and he was really sick. I even called the Dr. because he had all the symptoms that went along with the H1N1, but they didn't want to test him and said to come in if he got any worse. Thankfully he got better, but missed a whole week of school. Is it possible that more people have actually had this than recorded? There were alot of kids sick last year and it made me wonder this.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 1:19:31 PM
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I'm nervous, too. I think my hubby will lean towards vaccination unless our doctors (whom we really do trust and like) advise against it.
One thing I read in an article was that the Spanish Flu of 1918 was around the spring of that year and didn't do to much damage, but it surged back in the fall and winter, and the rest is history. We know that the H1N1 is on the campus where dH works, and it has been hanging around even during the summer. They're expecting a hefty comeback when the temperatures drop.
How is your little cousin, Erin? Is he fighting it ok?
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 1:20:48 PM
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Well, needles don't bother me ... I inject myself in the tummy 3-4 times a day with insulin. I'll take the occasional shot-in-the-arm instead, anytime. For those of you with no underlying health issues like asthma or diabetes, you can get an aerosol (nose spray) flu vaccine called Flu Mist, if you wanted. (That way you can avoid needles.)
One of my local Facebook friends lost her 22 year old male cousin to H1N1 a few weeks ago. He had no known underlying health issues ... just got the flu really bad, clogged up his chest, he spent a week in ICU on a respirator, then died. From what I've heard, it hits many people mildly, and some people -- really hard.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 2:01:44 PM
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Oddly enough younger adults are actually at higher risk then older adults, so a 22 year old would be right in the high risk group.
Glad to hear the young lady is doing better, Erin.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 2:14:29 PM
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If that were the case, older people wouldn't be in a risk group from seasonal flu, but they are. For some reason, swine flu seems to be more dangerous with the healthy and younger members of society.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 2:28:58 PM
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Exactly. I don't know if behavior is a contributing factor, but I've hear that older folks have more immunity to H1N1 then folks under 35.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 2:52:06 PM
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I guess there arent many more precautions I can take though I think you can tie yourself up in knots trying to figure out what you should and shouldn't be doing. I think that you are taking reasonable but not obsessive steps. No matter who this strain affects and doesn't affect, there is ia huge difference between reasonable and obsessive. I've been taking vitamin/mineral supplements since earlier in the year because it was recommended after having food poisoning (they were a good offer otherwise I'd have run out by now!) but I won't bother getting more (unless I ended up getting flu myself my doctor and I thought I'd benefit from them).
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 2:55:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: peculiar_lady2
hmmm...weird
My understanding is that in healthy individuals, their immune system fights to deal with the flu and goes into overdrive (naturally) and it is because of this that those people suffer so badly. With older people, it seems to kind of roll over (ie they get it, but because their immune system isn't so healthy, there is less resistance and the flu passes fairly quickly).
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 4:32:22 PM
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If H1N1 goes nuts here, we may delay Brian's next surgery (removing hardware in his elbow and possibly reconstructing the elbow). We are planning on January/February, but don't have any reason it needs to be done then, so if it's safer to wait until spring, then we might do that.
I'm afraid people here are not going to follow the health dept recommendations because they went so overboard in the spring when there was ONE case in four surrounding counties. That was when Brian had his back surgery, and I don't know if I said much about it then, but people were flipping out at his hospital, and they drastically shortened visiting hours which was a big pain in the butt for us. And all for nothing...
A few kids have had it at Nick's school. They were having the school professionally disinfected this summer and are very strict about having sick kids stay home for this upcoming school year.
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 4:33:38 PM
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And all for nothing... Perhaps things would have been far worse if they hadn't taken those steps?
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 4:37:19 PM
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Oddly enough younger adults are actually at higher risk then older adults, so a 22 year old would be right in the high risk group.
Glad to hear the young lady is doing better, Erin.
People ask me why some are so alarmed by this flu when it seems to be milder, but I think that's a big reason why. It seems to hurt the young/healthy the worst, when the seasonal flu would get the very young/old.
I know that many older people have been exposed to it in the past and have antibodies for it; that's why they have more immunity. I'm thinking that the outbreak in '76 exposed a lot of people who were alive at the time. Maybe that's why they say that those under that age (early to mid 30's) are more susceptible (That last part is just a guess.)
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RE: Kicka #6 - 8/31/2009 8:56:06 PM
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Ok, I'm posting a theological question because Sarah asked me to. I asked this in Bible and am not sure how it's gonna go over there. We all know it gets rough in the Theology folder. Anyway, I was listening to a christian radio program, one I trust dearly and a lady was talking about a book she wrote about unknown women of the Bible. She mentioned Noah's wife and how she righteous as well as the rest of the family just like Noah. I went back and read the text and it says nothing about his family being righteous, just him. Do you think it's safe to asssume that his family was righteous or did they just follow along in obedience or just for the heck of it.
I personally think that we should just believe that it was Noah because the text only states that it was him and to assume anything else would be adding to it and were not suppose to do that.
What do you think?
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, my sympathies to the family and friends.
