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Greatest Impact of All Time


The Blackwood Brothers
  10% (6)
The Statesmen
  25% (15)
The Rebels
  0% (0)
The Inspirations
  5% (3)
J.D. Sumner & The Stamps
  5% (3)
Gaither Vocal Band
  11% (7)
The Florida Boys
  0% (0)
Happy Goodman Family
  15% (9)
The Speer Family
  5% (3)
other---explain below
  22% (13)


Total Votes : 59


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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 11:42:09 PM   
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The Klaudt Indian Family should be included as a group having a great impact. They were noted as being one of the most diverse groups to ever travel the gospel music circuit. I think they began with Mom Dad, Vernon, Ramona and Melvin. They traveled more than five decades before retiring in the early 80's. They always appeared in full head dress and brought audiences to their feet.


Cool...Robert.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/2/2008 1:36:57 AM   
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I voted other, because I think the Kingsmen are the greatest impact of all time

Well I have to agree with you Josh. I know there are those who have made significant impacts in the Southern Gospel industry but The Kingsmen are my choice as well. Although I am surprised they were not on this list as well as of course The Cathedrals. Growing up they were always my two favorites.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/2/2008 5:57:55 PM   
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Well the question was "Greatest Impact" and some may say the kingsmen have not had as big an Impact as other groups, but I think the Kingsmen impacted the live performances for all SG and also pretty much made the live album. So I do think the kingsmen have made a great impact in SGM. If they were on the list I would vote for him

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/2/2008 5:59:54 PM   
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But if the Kingsmen were on any list I would vote for them so...

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/3/2008 8:08:59 PM   
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I think the group that impacted me as a child was The Happy Goodmans. We had a lot of their albums, and the Inspirations too. Vestal's voice was just amazing. I think maybe Vestal had a lot of impact on southern gospel as well. Before she got involved in PTL, and afterwards too. I always thought she made an impact with her dress and appearance in the old days. I think she had an equally strong impact when she changed those things in her life. From one extreme to the other, she had a lot of influence in southern gospel.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/3/2008 8:24:41 PM   
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But if the Kingsmen were on any list I would vote for them so...


You should probably say "any best-of list"!

I could just see someone starting a poll on "worst" or "least polished" SG quartet, just to see if you'd keep your word.

And I was halfway tempted to start a poll on "best indie Rock band."

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/6/2008 4:45:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: robertyork

The Klaudt Indian Family should be included as a group having a great impact. They were noted as being one of the most diverse groups to ever travel the gospel music circuit. I think they began with Mom Dad, Vernon, Ramona and Melvin. They traveled more than five decades before retiring in the early 80's. They always appeared in full head dress and brought audiences to their feet.


I appreciate the compliment Robert, however, the Klaudt Indian Family spanned so many different styles of music I don't believe it should be considered completely Southern Gospel. In fact much of our scheduling was done through the midwest, west and areas of Canada. We spent much of our time doing fairs, sports events, some night clubs, fund raisers, chautaguas and national TV guest appearances. Using piano, drums, trombone, barry sax, tenor sax, trumpet and bass kind of strays from the normal Southern Gospel sound. Even using these instruments back in the 1950's, 60's and 70's sort of isolated us from the normal SG concert fan base. But what we did we enjoyed as a family for over 50 years.

Today, we just enjoy supporting such a great style of music as SGM. My idea of great SGM is 4 male voices using just the piano.

Melvin Klaudt

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/6/2008 9:18:12 PM   
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We should not forget the Sego Bothers and Naomi. Their first album sold over 500,000 copies and the second, Sorry, I Never Knew You, sold over 1 million copies...a record that may not have been broken until this day. Someone did say that Wendy Bagwell sold over 1 million of the Rattlesnake album. I don't think the Cats ever did that. The Segos were also the group that gave the Happy Goodman Family their big break on the Wally Fowler All Night Singing in Nashville, TN.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/6/2008 10:04:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 88keysinnc

The Segos were also the group that gave the Happy Goodman Family their big break on the Wally Fowler All Night Singing in Nashville, TN.


I've never heard that story. Could you enlighten me?
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/6/2008 10:13:35 PM   
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The Happy Goodman family was definitely the greatest impact on me personally. They are the first national Southern Gospel group I ever heard and I appreciated their lives and their willingness to serve the Lord through the good and bad times.

From what I've read various places on Southern Gospel music, it seems like the Goodmans also impacted a lot of people musically, including other groups and country artists. I know the Cathedrals and other groups did too but I think I have to keep The Happy Goodmans at the top.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/6/2008 10:40:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: clout

quote:

ORIGINAL: robertyork

The Klaudt Indian Family should be included as a group having a great impact. They were noted as being one of the most diverse groups to ever travel the gospel music circuit. I think they began with Mom Dad, Vernon, Ramona and Melvin. They traveled more than five decades before retiring in the early 80's. They always appeared in full head dress and brought audiences to their feet.


I appreciate the compliment Robert, however, the Klaudt Indian Family spanned so many different styles of music I don't believe it should be considered completely Southern Gospel. In fact much of our scheduling was done through the midwest, west and areas of Canada. We spent much of our time doing fairs, sports events, some night clubs, fund raisers, Chautauqua and national TV guest appearances. Using piano, drums, trombone, barry sax, tenor sax, trumpet and bass kind of strays from the normal Southern Gospel sound. Even using these instruments back in the 1950's, 60's and 70's sort of isolated us from the normal SG concert fan base. But what we did we enjoyed as a family for over 50 years.

Today, we just enjoy supporting such a great style of music as SGM. My idea of great SGM is 4 male voices using just the piano.

Melvin Klaudt


Great story MELVIN.

Thanks for sharing some of your history for us.
The quote I boldfaced, can get you in trouble with some folks around here.
Others will hardily agree. Still others, like it all...almost.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 7:11:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: clout

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ORIGINAL: robertyork

The Klaudt Indian Family should be included as a group having a great impact. They were noted as being one of the most diverse groups to ever travel the gospel music circuit. I think they began with Mom Dad, Vernon, Ramona and Melvin. They traveled more than five decades before retiring in the early 80's. They always appeared in full head dress and brought audiences to their feet.


I appreciate the compliment Robert, however, the Klaudt Indian Family spanned so many different styles of music I don't believe it should be considered completely Southern Gospel. In fact much of our scheduling was done through the midwest, west and areas of Canada. We spent much of our time doing fairs, sports events, some night clubs, fund raisers, Chautauqua and national TV guest appearances. Using piano, drums, trombone, barry sax, tenor sax, trumpet and bass kind of strays from the normal Southern Gospel sound. Even using these instruments back in the 1950's, 60's and 70's sort of isolated us from the normal SG concert fan base. But what we did we enjoyed as a family for over 50 years.

Today, we just enjoy supporting such a great style of music as SGM. My idea of great SGM is 4 male voices using just the piano.

Melvin Klaudt


Great story MELVIN.

Thanks for sharing some of your history for us.
The quote I boldfaced, can get you in trouble with some folks around here.
Others will hardily agree. Still others, like it all...almost.


I understand Paul. I should have just included all genres that are atuned to shaped notes. Choirs, trios, solos, etc. One of my favorite groups was the LeFevre Trio which was a trio and then expanded into a diversified mix. Second to them was the Weatherfords. However, if we talk about the greatest impact, in my mind it has to be male quartets with just the piano.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 7:12:15 AM   
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He didn't say that was his idea of SGM--just his idea of great SGM. And I think I agree.

(That, despite the fact that a mixed group--Perrys--and a trio--Mark Trammell Trio--are two of my top groups right now!)

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 7:34:12 AM   
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I like just about everything that falls under the Southern Gospel music umbrella (from quartets, to mixed groups, trios, country flavored, progressive, etc.) IMO, that is what makes Southern Gospel great.

I think that as long as we all respect each other's likes and dislikes, we'll be fine.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 8:05:32 AM   
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The Segos were also the group that gave the Happy Goodman Family their big break on the Wally Fowler All Night Singing in Nashville, TN.


I've never heard that story. Could you enlighten me?

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I've never heard that story. Could you enlighten me?


I phrased that incorrectly. The Goodmans had been singing locally for awhile, when Wally Fowler gave them their big break. In James Sego's book, Gospel Singer, he says Rusty asked the Segos if they would give the Goodman Family a few minutes of their stage time. The Segos did and, the rest is history.

Sego also says in his book, that the Sego Brothers and Naomi were originally chosen to headline the Gospel Singing Jubilee (not the Goodmans) with the Florida Boys and Dixie Echoes. This all changed at the last minute because of James' alcohol problem. After that, the Sego's popularity began to wane. The Goodmans got the Jubilee spot and soared to the top.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 11:16:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 88keysinnc

The Segos were also the group that gave the Happy Goodman Family their big break on the Wally Fowler All Night Singing in Nashville, TN.


I've never heard that story. Could you enlighten me?

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I've never heard that story. Could you enlighten me?


I phrased that incorrectly. The Goodmans had been singing locally for awhile, when Wally Fowler gave them their big break. In James Sego's book, Gospel Singer, he says Rusty asked the Segos if they would give the Goodman Family a few minutes of their stage time. The Segos did and, the rest is history.

Sego also says in his book, that the Sego Brothers and Naomi were originally chosen to headline the Gospel Singing Jubilee (not the Goodmans) with the Florida Boys and Dixie Echoes. This all changed at the last minute because of James' alcohol problem. After that, the Sego's popularity began to wane. The Goodmans got the Jubilee spot and soared to the top.


Thanks for sharing that. I had heard that the Segos were chosen for the Jubilee, but never that they aided the Goodmans. That's a great story!
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 12:53:00 PM   
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Personally, I don't think you can pin the "Greatest impact" on any one person or group. So many, from Gaither to the Goodmans, have had a tremendous impact.

However, I'm surprised J.D. Sumner is getting very little mention in this conversation.

I believe the National Quartet Convention was his idea.
Traveling by a customized bus was his idea.
His work with Elvis helped to put a national spotlight on SGM.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 1:48:17 PM   
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The Happy Goodman family was definitely the greatest impact on me personally. They are the first national Southern Gospel group I ever heard and I appreciated their lives and their willingness to serve the Lord through the good and bad times.

From what I've read various places on Southern Gospel music, it seems like the Goodmans also impacted a lot of people musically, including other groups and country artists. I know the Cathedrals and other groups did too but I think I have to keep The Happy Goodmans at the top.



I agree with Sony
Happy Goodmans are first SG group that I can vividly recall actually seeing in person around age 8 or so, which was before they were very well known, and they had a very big influence on me and many, many other people I know.
Not just their singing but the joy of serving the Lord that just exuded from them whenever & where ever you saw them...on stage, in a tent, in a field, in church, out of church, singing, praying, eating, shopping ....they were just what they professed to be & never changed once "everybody" knew them

I, of course, have no problem with any others mentioned in the poll or other posts, but IMO Happy Goodmans get my vote any time

Plus I just loved Sister Vestal's big hair, big hankies and long dusters she wore

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 2:06:35 PM   
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Vestals sister Millie lives in the Chattanooga area and comes to several the local singings. She doesn't quite have Vestal's vocal ability but she does have a lot of power in her voice.

It's very entertaining to just sit and listen whe she talks about her family and the old days on Sand Mountain.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 2:20:27 PM   
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I voted for the Happy Goodmans.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 9:18:53 PM   
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I voted "other" because my choice would be the Weatherford Quartet. More specifficallly, Earl Weatherford. If there had been no Weatherfords, there would have been no Cathedrals. Jim Hammill also got his start with the Weatherfords, so... it might be doubtful that the best emcee would have been where he was without them. Thus the Kingsmen might have been nowhere. The others would be the original Stamps-Baxter Quartet, the Blackwood Brothers, and the Statesmen. Possibly a mention of the Chuck Wagon Gang. These innovated the styles that everyone else followed. If you look at impact, you must go back to the roots. These groups would have to be included. If you speak of individuals... maybe we need a thread to discuss that separately.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/7/2008 10:49:23 PM   
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I voted "other" because my choice would be the Weatherford Quartet. More specifficallly, Earl Weatherford. If there had been no Weatherfords, there would have been no Cathedrals.


When I think of the groups that were influenced by the Weatherfords, the first that comes to mind is Jake Hess and the Imperials.

When Henry Slaughter brought arrangements to the Imperials, many he had first used with the Weatherfords. Of course, the Imperials long time bass singer, Armond Morales, learned his craft from the Weatherfords.

A few years ago, I made a CD of Jake Hess & the Imperials songs that were first recorded by the Weatherfords. After thirty songs, I ran out of room on my CD.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/11/2008 5:42:18 PM   
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Now it's the Gaither Vocal Band and Bill Gaither in particular. Without Bill, SGM wouldn't be anywhere near as popular and well-known as it is now. I believe that he will go down in history as the ONE person who had the overall greatest impact on Southern Gospel Music. Fifty years from now, when that generation looks back, Bill Gaither, his Homecoming Singers, and all his DVDs will be what is remembered as keeping the genre alive.


I agree about Bill Gaither. That's why I voted other. Everyone knows who Bill Gaither is. I didn't grow up listening to Southern Gospel music, but still knew who Bill Gaither was. His songs, trios, quartets, etc., have had the largest impact on not just Southern Gospel music, but also churches and other people in other types of music. There are people that would probably not have much of a church background that would still know who he was and could probably tell you at least one song he wrote.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 2:28:35 PM   
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I voted other because while several of these had huge impacts I believe as previously mentioned this is just a short, short list and there are many others.

Many men/women in these groups and others helped other singers behind the scenes both musically and personally. Those are the folks that had the real impact in my opinion.

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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/12/2008 3:43:21 PM   
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Just wondering who yall thought had the greatest impact, of all time, as a Gospel Artist...


Above was the original question.

"Gospel Artist" seems to indicate a singular artist. Although Bill Gaither has revived SGM to its possibly highest level in several decades, he had plenty of help through a combination of several members of the greatest groups of all time. If we look at it from this aspect, we then would have to include TV programs such as Jubilee and the Caravan. We also had the Bob Poole Show to consider that reached over 350 TV outlets and also military outlets around the world.

In retrospect, I would have to include Dottie Rambo at the top of the list. Writing over 3500 songs placed her in the limelight through Elvis, Hollywood and most of the SGM groups. Her music also spanned the styles of rock, bluegrass, country, classical, jazz and also was scored for movies. I just think I might say Dottie Rambo as a singular artist has had the greatest impact on SGM

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