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Greatest Impact of All Time
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| The Blackwood Brothers |
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| The Statesmen |
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| Gaither Vocal Band |
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| The Florida Boys |
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| Happy Goodman Family |
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| The Speer Family |
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/30/2008 8:12:35 PM
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quaidnewcome
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Definatley!
They also had a degree of "impact" on the Imperials, through Armond Morales. (and Henry Slaughter??? I think he was with both Weatherfords and Imperials, but I'm not sure.)
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WHO had the most "impact" on The Cathedrals?
The Weatherfords!!!
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/30/2008 8:23:56 PM
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quaidnewcome
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Groups that have had/ or still have EOU influence include (this may take awhile):
Dan Keeton Quartet
Karen Peck & New River
Whisnants
Greater Vision
Dove Brothers
Carolina Boys
Heavenbound
Safe Harbor..........and any other group Derrick Boyd has sang with)
Legacy 5
Poet Voices
Old Time Gospel Hour Quartet
(Last 3 groups connected indirectley through Tony Jarman. His father sang lead with the DMB. Read the credits inside L5's "Heroes of The Faith" CD to get a glimpse of a special live recording by Ed and the 'Boys. BTW, on a comp. CD I have that live cut of "Hallelujah Square". It's truley an aniointed performance. BACK ON TOPIC NOW......)
I can't think of any more at the moment, but rest assured, many others groups have felt the "Impact" of Ed O'Neal and the Dixie Melody Boys.
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I would have to agree with the statement about Ed O"Neal. He has impacted almost countless artists lives as they got their start at EOU. Now look at how many top groups have former members of the Dixie Melody Boys singing with them. Now that is impact if I've ever seen it.
I don't think the Dixie Melody Boys are one of the best groups out there, but they are one of the best at the style that they sing.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 12:03:33 AM
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Cathedrals, definitely. They were the greatest IMHO.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 12:18:20 AM
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Fifty years ago the Blackwood Brothers and the Statesman Quartet.
Then came along the Happy Goodmans and the Hinsons.
Now it's the Gaither Vocal Band and Bill Gaither in particular. Without Bill, SGM wouldn't be anywhere near as popular and well-known as it is now. I believe that he will go down in history as the ONE person who had the overall greatest impact on Southern Gospel Music. Fifty years from now, when that generation looks back, Bill Gaither, his Homecoming Singers, and all his DVDs will be what is remembered as keeping the genre alive.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 12:34:12 PM
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HigherNote4U
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We could add.....
Brian Free and Assurance
Kingsmen
I know there are more, but my brain has temporarily shut down at the moment.
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ORIGINAL: quaidnewcome
Groups that have had/ or still have EOU influence include (this may take awhile):
Dan Keeton Quartet
Karen Peck & New River
Whisnants
Greater Vision
Dove Brothers
Carolina Boys
Heavenbound
Safe Harbor..........and any other group Derrick Boyd has sang with)
Legacy 5
Poet Voices
Old Time Gospel Hour Quartet
(Last 3 groups connected indirectley through Tony Jarman. His father sang lead with the DMB. Read the credits inside L5's "Heroes of The Faith" CD to get a glimpse of a special live recording by Ed and the 'Boys. BTW, on a comp. CD I have that live cut of "Hallelujah Square". It's truley an aniointed performance. BACK ON TOPIC NOW......)
I can't think of any more at the moment, but rest assured, many others groups have felt the "Impact" of Ed O'Neal and the Dixie Melody Boys.
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ORIGINAL: HigherNote4U
I would have to agree with the statement about Ed O"Neal. He has impacted almost countless artists lives as they got their start at EOU. Now look at how many top groups have former members of the Dixie Melody Boys singing with them. Now that is impact if I've ever seen it.
I don't think the Dixie Melody Boys are one of the best groups out there, but they are one of the best at the style that they sing.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 6:14:38 PM
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I voted "other." No Cathedrals on the list? (!)
AMEN and AMEN!!!! I voted "other" for the same reason. There has never been another group like the Cathedrals and what an impact they had! They introduced some of the most awesome songs over the years, as well as just laying the groundwork for "this is the way's it's supposed to be done".
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 11:09:43 PM
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If we are going to talk individuals, I vote for Bill Gaither.
For incomparable songwriting, bringing a whole new audience (people such as me) to appreciate the legends, and doing as much as anyone to keep the SG genre alive over the last 20+ years.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 11:15:48 PM
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If we are going to talk individuals, I vote for Bill Gaither.
Bill Gaither did make a very big impact on gospel music, but I'd have to go with Dottie Rambo.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 7/31/2008 11:22:14 PM
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If we are going to talk individuals, I vote for Bill Gaither.
For incomparable songwriting, bringing a whole new audience (people such as me) to appreciate the legends, and doing as much as anyone to keep the SG genre alive over the last 20+ years.
No one can dispute any of that.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 12:13:12 AM
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CzarofSGMR
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It seems as though many folks here think the Cathedral Quartet had the greatest impact on the world of gospel music.
I think for most of us who have followed gospel music for more than four decades, it would have to be a toss up between the Statesmen and the Blackwood Brothers.
For those of you who love the Cathedral Quartet . . . and I'm one who loves them and owns all of their recordings . . . I would like for you to tell me what you feel like they did in their career to cause you to think that way of them. In other words, what do you think the Cathedral Quartet accomplished that hadn't previously been accomplished by the Statesmen or the Blackwood Brothers?
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 7:00:21 AM
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danielmount
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For those of you who love the Cathedral Quartet . . . and I'm one who loves them and owns all of their recordings . . . I would like for you to tell me what you feel like they did in their career to cause you to think that way of them. In other words, what do you think the Cathedral Quartet accomplished that hadn't previously been accomplished by the Statesmen or the Blackwood Brothers?
The first person to do something isn't always the most influential person at that thing.
The Couriers were first to use soundtracks, but that doesn't mean they were the reason most groups switched over to it. (In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cathedrals' Symphony of Praise project had as much of an influence there as anything else.)
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 7:27:06 AM
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ORIGINAL: CzarofSGMR
It seems as though many folks here think the Cathedral Quartet had the greatest impact on the world of gospel music.
I think for most of us who have followed gospel music for more than four decades, it would have to be a toss up between the Statesmen and the Blackwood Brothers.
For those of you who love the Cathedral Quartet . . . and I'm one who loves them and owns all of their recordings . . . I would like for you to tell me what you feel like they did in their career to cause you to think that way of them. In other words, what do you think the Cathedral Quartet accomplished that hadn't previously been accomplished by the Statesmen or the Blackwood Brothers?
I have to agree with you. I think the Cathedrals are more fondly remembered because their best years (I don't mean personnel) as a group were at the end of their career. They basically went out on top. Few groups, in Southern Gospel at least, can say that.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 7:28:08 AM
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ORIGINAL: CzarofSGMR
It seems as though many folks here think the Cathedral Quartet had the greatest impact on the world of gospel music.
I think for most of us who have followed gospel music for more than four decades, it would have to be a toss up between the Statesmen and the Blackwood Brothers.
For those of you who love the Cathedral Quartet . . . and I'm one who loves them and owns all of their recordings . . . I would like for you to tell me what you feel like they did in their career to cause you to think that way of them. In other words, what do you think the Cathedral Quartet accomplished that hadn't previously been accomplished by the Statesmen or the Blackwood Brothers?
I have to agree with you. I think the Cathedrals are more fondly remembered because their best years (I don't mean personnel) as a group were at the end of their career. They basically went out on top. Few groups, in Southern Gospel at least, can say that.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 8:06:51 AM
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CzarofSGMR
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I have to agree with you. I think the Cathedrals are more fondly remembered because their best years (I don't mean personnel) as a group were at the end of their career. They basically went out on top. Few groups, in Southern Gospel at least, can say that.
Two very interesting comments here, Seaton, and I agree with both of them.
Playing devil's advocate here:
When the Blackwood Brothers experienced their tragic airplane crash in 1954, they were the best gospel music had to offer. They had just won the Arthur Godfrey Talent Scouts show, they were a best selling artist for RCA Victor . . . in other words, after 15 years of singing gospel music, they were at the top of their game.
If the Blackwood Brothers had closed up shop after their airplane crash, do you think their impact would have been greater than it was having continued for another 30-40 years?
. . . and Seaton, I work in Mooresville!
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 8:45:23 AM
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If the Blackwood Brothers had closed up shop after their airplane crash, do you think their impact would have been greater than it was having continued for another 30-40 years?
. . . and Seaton, I work in Mooresville!
Maybe to that comment. I think it has to do more with time than anything else. As more years pass, I think the Cathedrals impact will become less of a factor to the newer generation of Southern Gospel fans.
And you work in Mooresville. Small world. If you don't mind, send me a PM and let me know who you are. Later...
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 9:41:35 AM
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If we are looking at the present, it would have to be GVB and Bill, if we are looking at the past it would have to be Blackwoods or Statesmen, if it has to be future and the past, it would have to be Elvis Presley. When most of the present Icons are gone, elvis will still be coming out of the woodwork singing SG.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 10:06:44 AM
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danielmount
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ORIGINAL: CzarofSGMR
If the Blackwood Brothers had closed up shop after their airplane crash, do you think their impact would have been greater than it was having continued for another 30-40 years?
. . . and Seaton, I work in Mooresville!
Maybe to that comment. I think it has to do more with time than anything else. As more years pass, I think the Cathedrals impact will become less of a factor to the newer generation of Southern Gospel fans.
I would have to agree. Right now, I think they are the group with the biggest impact on Southern Gospel as it is today, but twenty years from now people could be naming EHSS, Triumphant, Greater Vision, or perhaps some mega-group yet to be formed.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 10:36:48 AM
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Great thread! To pinpoint one group or person who has had the MOST impact on SGM is nearly impossible. For me personally, the greatest impact came from the Cathredrals. Some of my favorite songs ever were first sang by this group. And because of the Cathedrals we now have Greater Vision, Mark Trammell Trio, Legacy Five, EH&SS, Danny Funderburk, the incredible legacy left behind by Roger Bennett and some others. I also think these fellows had a great impact on people like Bill Gaither, whom not all that far behind them age wise, was greatly inspired by their committment to God and the way they just made it all click. They just seemed to set the standard for Quartet music IN MY OPINION. I know the Blackwoods were out there first and so on, but the Cathedrals took SG to a whole new level for me, and instilled a love in my heart for this great music.
Let me throw out some other names though, some of which haven't been mentioned here yet. Clout already stole my thunder by mentioning Elvis. That was the first one I thought about as I read through the posts. While his popularity is not for SG, he made no bones about it that he loved this genre of music. During his career, there was probably no one more famous than he. He gave Southern Gospel some limelight in the media and other sources that probably impacted it's notoriety and made it more well known throughout the world. AND.....
Over 75 years ago, a man and his children set out with a guitar and four vocals, to hit the road singing Southern Gospel Music. Whether or not you like their style of music, there's no doubt in my mind that The Chuck Wagon Gang certainly paved a way for other groups to follow. They sang the old hymns by songwriters such as Fanny Crosby if you really want to go back that far. People like her penned some great old hymns that would later become the foundation for the Southern Gospel Industry. The simple style of the Chuck Wagon Gang endeared a generation of Christians to SG, and began to set in motion what has become what we all love today.
Fast forwarding a few years, it was songwriters like Rusty Goodman and Dottie Rambo who allowed God to use them in writing some of the most heartfelt and powerful songs to ever hit SGM. I truly believe if it weren't for people like that, we wouldn't have the kind of songwriters today that we have been blessed with. They truly inspired many people to seek this gift from God.
As I read through the other posts here, one name came up that I had failed to think about, and that is Ed Oneil. What an ENNORMOUS impact this man has made to this industry! He has a rare talent to discover, and a gigantic heart to give an opportunity to young men breaking into the SG field! This man has truly been used of God, and through his efforts, and his COMMITMENT to Southern Gospel, he deserves an awful lot of kudos. I've enjoyed the posts thus far in this thread. It's a great reminder of what a tremendous blessing SG is.
There is another name however that hasn't been mentioned yet either, and I mention this one just for the sake of having the undeniably correct answer for who has impacted SG music the most. And that of course is Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Now, I know everyone already knew that, and that was just assumed this thread was about humans, but who can argue with my answer right? ha ha.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 1:13:20 PM
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quaidnewcome
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If I remember the dates correctley.........
Blackwood Brothers started in 1934.
Speer Family preceded them by 12 or 13 years.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 1:23:24 PM
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quaidnewcome
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Weatherfords also served somewhat as a training grounds for Jim Hamill.
I'd love to have some recordings of Jim and George together with Earl (one of the best baritones around) and Lilly Fern.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 4:55:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: quaidnewcome
If I remember the dates correctley.........
Blackwood Brothers started in 1934.
Speer Family preceded them by 12 or 13 years.
The LeFevres, Urius, Alphus and their sister began in the mid 1920's at BTS in Sevierville, TN. I can't remember the exact year. If my memory serves me right, in 1925 my mother Lillian Little Soldier and her sister Katie Little Soldier attended BTS and the LeFevres were already there. Some historians out there should be able to let us know.
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RE: Greatest Impact of All Time - 8/1/2008 9:02:18 PM
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The Klaudt Indian Family should be included as a group having a great impact. They were noted as being one of the most diverse groups to ever travel the gospel music circuit. I think they began with Mom Dad, Vernon, Ramona and Melvin. They traveled more than five decades before retiring in the early 80's. They always appeared in full head dress and brought audiences to their feet.
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