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Exodus 3:13-15. 13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?” (Elohiym means, “God of The Living.”) It can also be translated as “god-s of the living” or “god-s of life,” for those who have life immortal. 14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.” (HaYah) in the ancient Semitic language means: The Living, or The Life.) 15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah,... WHEN God gave His first name HaYah / YH. Ha is not part of His name, it is the article "THE." After that God gives His full name YHWH / Yahwah.

This is also nonsense, HYH meant in the ancient semitic just what it means today "to be/ to exist". It is one of the most well attested verbs in the bible; it is used many times in every biblical book as well as in contemporary literature.

Neither does 'Elohim' mean God of the living, it simply means God (or gods). God of the living is elchi spelled with a 'chet' not a 'hey' and the verb 'live' is also spelled with a 'chet' not a 'hey'; it is CH-Y-H.

BTW - my screen names, 'ben el chi', is 'son of the living God' taken from Ho. 1:10 (2:1 in the Hebrew bible) where 'living God' really is used.


Because it seem like we have come full circle, and are again right back where we were at the beginning of the of this discussion, I think I will bow out rather than repeat the same information I have already provided. Here is one of the previous links where these claims have already been addressed.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

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ORIGINAL: MichaelTheeArchAngel

I have been looking at men and women names in Hebrew and I'M seeing contradictions to the rules. I think I'm geting a headache.

Please do not mistake the gendering of nouns (masculine - feminine) to have any connection to the gender of a person (male female). There is much more to it than that. Indeed, it is frequently the case that in naming body parts, if there are 2 of them they are usually masculine (eyes, ears, breasts) and if there is only one they are usually feminine (and that includes distinctly MALE parts).

Do not try to read any male-female component into the gender. They are just words.

Please note that God is described as "Father" in the Hebrew scriptures and that carries over and is emphasized in the New Covenant. Father is distinctly masculine/male. However, also note that most of HIS attributes are listed as feminine/female. The most pronounced example I can think of is HIS name El Shaddai - usually rendered the all-sufficient God. "Shad" is the Hebrew word for breast. So if you look at the name literally, HE is the high-breastly one, more like mother than father.

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ORIGINAL: benelchi

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Exodus 3:13-15. 13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?” (Elohiym means, “God of The Living.”) It can also be translated as “god-s of the living” or “god-s of life,” for those who have life immortal. 14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.” (HaYah) in the ancient Semitic language means: The Living, or The Life.) 15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah,... WHEN God gave His first name HaYah / YH. Ha is not part of His name, it is the article "THE." After that God gives His full name YHWH / Yahwah.

This is also nonsense, HYH meant in the ancient semitic just what it means today "to be/ to exist". It is one of the most well attested verbs in the bible; it is used many times in every biblical book as well as in contemporary literature.

Neither does 'Elohim' mean God of the living, it simply means God (or gods). God of the living is elchi spelled with a 'chet' not a 'hey' and the verb 'live' is also spelled with a 'chet' not a 'hey'; it is CH-Y-H.

BTW - my screen names, 'ben el chi', is 'son of the living God' taken from Ho. 1:10 (2:1 in the Hebrew bible) where 'living God' really is used.


Because it seem like we have come full circle, and are again right back where we were at the beginning of the of this discussion, I think I will bow out rather than repeat the same information I have already provided. Here is one of the previous links where these claims have already been addressed.

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It seems that lot of words in the English language are not in the Ancient Hebrew. So therefore a lot of interpretation takes place.

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ORIGINAL: benelchi

BTW - my screen names, 'ben el chi', is 'son of the living God' taken from Ho. 1:10 (2:1 in the Hebrew bible) where 'living God' really is used.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

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ORIGINAL: benelchi

BTW - my screen names, 'ben el chi', is 'son of the living God' taken from Ho. 1:10 (2:1 in the Hebrew bible) where 'living God' really is used.

Interesting. Since I do not read the common script Hebrew, I did not recognize the handle as Hebrew. I thought it was an Italian name, meaning something like "good milk" from Bene Leche.

Perhaps if you had used the more standard transliteration Chai for life....

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

Yeah, I have seen that logo - quite cool.

My daughter lived in Haifa for almost a year and a half, and I hear no end of her telling me I need to learn the script.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW
My daughter lived in Haifa for almost a year and a half, and I hear no end of her telling me I need to learn the script.

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Hi, Carlos. thanks for the info.wow. Sacred name only people are a bunch of wackos.

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ORIGINAL: Odeliya

Yeah, I complimented Ben already on a cool av. while, while ago on women in church thread so I wont repeat it. Some designers uses the similar cursive style logo on an angle, black on white, really classy, I like it.

Mischa, my heart, I agree with you on most technicalities, even I see you being very generous in your estimation of Hebrew Scholars, you are a kind man. I have personal knowledge of that bunch and aware of how academia works, seeing some real bizzare stuff being proven, ideas of unlimited degrees of craziness.Sky is the limit for scholars and -not in a good sense : )

Michael( Angelo)- glad you decided to study. Gender alone will keep you off the street for a while. Don’t forget the words like “letter” that depend on sense it’s used changes the gender, as in “sign”

Hi, Carlos. thanks for the info.wow. Sacred name only people are a bunch of wackos.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

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It seems that lot of words in the English language are not in the Ancient Hebrew. So therefore a lot of interpretation takes place.

YES!!!

You got it! There is not, nor can there ever be, a 1 to 1 correlation between any 2 languages from different families; and biblical Hebrew to English is certainly the poster child for that sentiment.

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My daughter lived in Haifa for almost a year and a half,

Did she go for year study at Technion? My uncle taught there for many years.

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To me the most precious name there is is JESUS.
ACTS 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
ACTS 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Phillipians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

Some sacred name people believe that the words "god" "lord" "jesus" are obcenities and if you use them you are swearing. You have to use Yahwah, Adonai and Yashuah.

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And I do not see a relationship between the names Yahshua and Jesus. Somthing to think about.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

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ORIGINAL: MichaelTheeArchAngel

And I do not see a relationship between the names Yahshua and Jesus. Somthing to think about.

Original Hebrew Name = Yeshua (pronounced Yeh-SHOO-ah)

That gets represented in Greek as Ixote (sorry I have no pronounciation)

That gets in turn gets transliterated into Latin which has no sh sound and requires a -us ending (2nd declension) for masculine nouns. You get Iesus. (pronounced YAY-soos)

That gets taken straight into middle english spelled the same. Somewhere in the 1600s most initial Is become Js. You get the spelling Jesus.

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

I think if we backtrack closely we can see the similarities
and why we have what we have.

My big thing is, whatever you use, are you talking about
the Creator Redeemer? If yes, then I don't have a problem
with it.