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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/21/2009 8:26:23 PM   
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I have followed the kingsmen for a long time. They have a very solid and talented group now. They have had some great songs in the last 2 years and people loved When God Ran and the cloud he's coming back on. Those were very solid songs, so it makes you wonder if maybe there is politicking going on. Maybe we should demand a recount. Hey just thinking. I guess we should be glad that a certian group doesn't have a bass singer.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/21/2009 9:02:16 PM   
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Am I the only one who is disgusted that the Kingsmen didn't win Song of the Year last night? (No offence to the winners) - But, When God Ran deserved to be Song of the Year! It has impacted peoples lives, and has encouraged them . . . the message of the song is so much more powerful than the song that won. (IMO.) Does anyone else feel my pain????


I wonder if the age of the song, or the fact that it was borrowed from a different genre hurt it's chances??
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/21/2009 9:13:30 PM   
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Yes, i was watching the awards on the internet, and when they said the winner, i was so shocked, i thought for sure , When God Ran was gonna win. I was very dissapointed the Kingsmen didn't win any awards this year. But , they are still MY favorites.

It has been a long time since The Kingmen have won the awards they should have been winning all along. The Kingsmen have been around for a great many years and it is disheartening to see then not given the honoring that they deserve. There is much more I would like to say but as I do not want to offend anyone I will stop here.......


There is NO fair way to do it. Internet voting can be manipulated, as can phone voting. When the vote comes from one magazine's subscribers, that's a problem too. You can't even use concert attendance as a barometer, due to the varying venues and number of dates groups play.
You could take the charts combined with album sales, and maybe formulate that with some different criteria.

Maybe these awards should not be "Fan Awards" but "Industry Awards". Use several sources for a combined percentage of the vote. Kind of like the Major League Baseball "All-Star Vote"
1. SN or some combination of magazine vote
2. Southern Gospel radio vote
3. Labels get a vote
4. Current artists with songs in the top 100 over the last year vote
5. All members of the SGMA Hall of Fame.
Take all these and figure out a formula.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/21/2009 9:15:44 PM   
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I feel your pain Bennett Fan, but some groups talk up the awards more then other groups do. By that I mean at thier concerts they talk it up more to thier fans about voting for them. The tenor winner bothered me more.

The Fan Awards have always bothered me. It seems that each year the winners become more predictable and so that leaves you to wonder who really has the voting power????? Just MHO


Also, since these are done by "fans", it seems that basically the group with the most fans wins, not the group that is the best.
I wonder how many people vote straight "party line" for their fav. group. I know back when I subscribed to SN, I did. I used to vote the Kingsmen in every category that they were in, regardless of what it was for.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/21/2009 10:41:08 PM   
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The new Kingsmen project, Missing People, is top-notch as well. "God Saw A Cross" should be the group's next #1 song!
I'll be reviewing the CD in the coming weeks on my blog. It's shaping up to get a good review!

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/22/2009 12:36:55 AM   
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Why not fan's nominate five artist in each category? Then let DJs, musicians and peers decide the winners. Give every SGM DJ, SGM musician and SGM artist ONE vote in each category.

Ties broken by album sales.

That should mix things up and anyone winning can rightly claim their prize.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/22/2009 9:01:38 AM   
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There is no easy solution. At least we have this forum to let the Kingsmen how much we love and appreciate them. I know Bryan and Brandon read this, and i'm sure the others do as well.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/22/2009 12:21:28 PM   
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There is no easy solution. At least we have this forum to let the Kingsmen how much we love and appreciate them. I know Bryan and Brandon read this, and i'm sure the others do as well.


That's right DJS! The Kingsmen need to know how much we love them!

Yet, at the same time I get a little disgusted because, as so many of you already said, The Kingsmen’s last two projects along with the current line up has so much talent and quality - and they hardly get noticed by such things as the Fan Awards. I have heard all of the songs that made it in the top five for Song of the Year, and though they are all good songs, When God Ran was by far the best one out of all of them. (IMO) The one with the strongest message, the one that makes a difference when people hear it. As tenorsister said, the Fan Awards are becoming too predictable. (I can probably tell you right now who is going to win songwriter for next year!) LOL

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/22/2009 5:12:59 PM   
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I have always been a huge Kingsmen fan and always will be. They are my favorite quartet and have been for a good 30 years. They are going to be with my quartet on 10/23/09 and we are looking foward to it. We have had the Dove Brothers the last 2 years but we were able to work it out this year where the Kingsmen could be with us. Come out and be with us if you can it will be in North Wilkesboro,NC.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/22/2009 11:34:33 PM   
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The new Kingsmen project, Missing People, is top-notch as well. "God Saw A Cross" should be the group's next #1 song!
I'll be reviewing the CD in the coming weeks on my blog. It's shaping up to get a good review!


I agree....God Saw A Cross has been my new favorite song since I heard it. Even if it is sung by you know who

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/25/2009 10:09:06 AM   
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Hey for anybody on facebook. I made on online album of Kingsmen album (CD) covers, if anyone would like to look at them. There were only room to put 60 on each album, so this will be album #1. I will have to do more later. I know i can probably do #2, and maybe #3. They have quite a few projects down thru the years.

http://www.facebook.com/DJSfromCleveland?ref=name#/album.php?aid=2034279&id=1094686096&ref=mf

I also did another album with older Kingsmen Albums , Check this link:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2034304&id=1094686096&ref=mf

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/25/2009 1:46:14 PM   
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Having had a few days to think on this I would like to address the fan awards and the "winners". I have followed SGM from the cradle and been to NQC many times in the past and been sitting there at the awards and watched as soooo many talented artists were passed over for the other guy. To point where I was so discouraged that I got up and left. I know this might not be appropriate but I have to get on my soap box about my own brother......Harold has been in SGM for over 20 years having started with Squire when he was just 18 and yet he has never won one single Singing News fan award. I know he is not the only one in this category but simple one I can speak on. Pictures as they say are worth a thousand words then video must be worth a million.......watch and listen and decide......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1lZUn08wc0

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/25/2009 4:04:40 PM   
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Sounds good to me. He has my vote.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/25/2009 5:28:49 PM   
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The Kingsmen have always had some of the best tenors that have ever been on stage. In my opinion Harrold is better now then he has ever been, maybe because he is getting to shine more. One reason I have always loved the kingsmen is because they are so down to earth. Could be because they still understand it is all about God. Sorry I have a habit of shooting straight.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/26/2009 10:33:44 AM   
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Sounds good to me. He has my vote.

Thats one

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/26/2009 10:34:44 AM   
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The Kingsmen have always had some of the best tenors that have ever been on stage. In my opinion Harrold is better now then he has ever been, maybe because he is getting to shine more. One reason I have always loved the kingsmen is because they are so down to earth. Could be because they still understand it is all about God. Sorry I have a habit of shooting straight.


I just love that Kingsmen tenor

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 9/30/2009 11:39:28 AM   
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Here is a new Kingsmen question . . .

What is your top 5 favorite songs off of the Kingsmen's new CD, Missing People?

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/1/2009 12:41:10 PM   
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I guess I'll go first . . .

1. God Saw A Cross
2. Missing People
3. Someday
4. God Knows
5. When It's All Said And Done



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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/1/2009 4:33:54 PM   
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have'nt listen to it all yet. I will then I will post to let you know.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/1/2009 9:32:31 PM   
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Don't know if i can narrow it down to 5 yet.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/2/2009 8:59:21 AM   
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OK everybody, check out my new, updated, Kingsmen Inventory , my pictures of all the project of theirs in my collection. You don't have to be on facebook to see these ones either. Anyone can see them now! Hope you enjoy them!!!

http://picasaweb.google.com/davidjames.stuart/KINGSMENALBUMS#

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/2/2009 12:27:03 PM   
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I have'nt listen to it all yet. I will then I will post to let you know.


No need to be ashamed, I'm sure we all understand! Life gets pretty busy these days.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/7/2009 4:23:22 PM   
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You are absolutely right. God Saw a Cross is by far the best song on the CD and should be the next single release. If you can listen to that song and not feel something that lights your fire--your wood's wet!!
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/7/2009 4:27:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DJSfromCleveland

There is no easy solution. At least we have this forum to let the Kingsmen how much we love and appreciate them. I know Bryan and Brandon read this, and i'm sure the others do as well.


That's right DJS! The Kingsmen need to know how much we love them!

Yet, at the same time I get a little disgusted because, as so many of you already said, The Kingsmen’s last two projects along with the current line up has so much talent and quality - and they hardly get noticed by such things as the Fan Awards. I have heard all of the songs that made it in the top five for Song of the Year, and though they are all good songs, When God Ran was by far the best one out of all of them. (IMO) The one with the strongest message, the one that makes a difference when people hear it. As tenorsister said, the Fan Awards are becoming too predictable. (I can probably tell you right now who is going to win songwriter for next year!) LOL



well if you mean Rodney Griffin--He wrote God Saw a Cross so I hope he does LOL
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 10/7/2009 4:33:27 PM   
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Having had a few days to think on this I would like to address the fan awards and the "winners". I have followed SGM from the cradle and been to NQC many times in the past and been sitting there at the awards and watched as soooo many talented artists were passed over for the other guy. To point where I was so discouraged that I got up and left. I know this might not be appropriate but I have to get on my soap box about my own brother......Harold has been in SGM for over 20 years having started with Squire when he was just 18 and yet he has never won one single Singing News fan award. I know he is not the only one in this category but simple one I can speak on. Pictures as they say are worth a thousand words then video must be worth a million.......watch and listen and decide......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1lZUn08wc0



WAHOO that boy can sing. I am as glad he is in my family as you are to have him in yours LOL
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