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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/4/2009 11:45:14 AM
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billbaileybfafan
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Yea I do...In my opinion, Jeremy Peace, Jerry Martin, Ernie Phillips, Gary Shepphard, Chris Collins, Harold Reed, and Johnny Parrack are better than Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk
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Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk?  Not Kingsmen caliber tenors in my book 
I really hope you were joking, cause if not, I totally don't understand that!!!
I mean both of those are better than many kingsmen tenors. After all they were of enough "caliber" to sing with the Cathedral Quartet, one of the greatest male quartets in history.
Do you really think Jeremy Peace, Ernie Phillips or Garry Shepphard were as good as these 2 guys??
Wow, thats so unbelievable. I agree that Chris Collins and Jerry Martin are better, but those other guys, I just don't hear it. They all have their moments and all did good songs, but its hard to beat Ernie Haase singing "O What a Saviour", or Danny's "Somebody Touched Me"
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/4/2009 12:28:22 PM
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how bout my guess of ERnie Haase?
No, it wasn't Ernie.
Keep trying guys!
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/4/2009 2:43:24 PM
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Hey, the new song that we just recorded "He Is The Only One" (on our new recording) is a new song, co-written by Scoot Shelnut. Not an old Kingsmen song.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/4/2009 7:47:57 PM
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billbaileybfafan
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Bob Oliver, original tenor for Gold City?
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 3:58:01 AM
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I believe this song was originally on the album entitled .. "The Reverend Everette Beverly and Sister Annna Laura". I always loved that song!
Interesting title <chuckle> for the song "When The Son Goes Down."
I see that song on the 40th Anniversary album which had many great songs including "On Some Sweet Day," "The Lovely Name Of Jesus." etc. Were you thinking of a different Kingsmen album?
From searching Allmusic.com's database, I see "He's The Only One" was on a couple other compilation discs:
Oh Happy Day: Classic Gospels and Spirituals released n 2004 by Retro Music (track #25).
More Southern Gospel Classics released in 2005 by Madacy (track $14)
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 4:05:40 AM
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Hey, the new song that we just recorded "He Is The Only One" (on our new recording) is a new song, co-written by Scoot Shelnut. Not an old Kingsmen song.
I hope it's a great song; the original was a gem. It's a shame that the new one is using the same title as it'll just create confusion.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 7:53:40 AM
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Yea I do...In my opinion, Jeremy Peace, Jerry Martin, Ernie Phillips, Gary Shepphard, Chris Collins, Harold Reed, and Johnny Parrack are better than Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk
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Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk? Not Kingsmen caliber tenors in my book
I really hope you were joking, cause if not, I totally don't understand that!!!
I mean both of those are better than many kingsmen tenors. After all they were of enough "caliber" to sing with the Cathedral Quartet, one of the greatest male quartets in history.
Do you really think Jeremy Peace, Ernie Phillips or Garry Shepphard were as good as these 2 guys??
Wow, thats so unbelievable. I agree that Chris Collins and Jerry Martin are better, but those other guys, I just don't hear it. They all have their moments and all did good songs, but its hard to beat Ernie Haase singing "O What a Saviour", or Danny's "Somebody Touched Me"
Well guys, there's no right or wrong answer here, it's just a matter of personal taste! a lot of people like a certain singer, and then other people can't stand that same singer. So , everybody has their favorites.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 8:40:36 AM
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Yea I do...In my opinion, Jeremy Peace, Jerry Martin, Ernie Phillips, Gary Shepphard, Chris Collins, Harold Reed, and Johnny Parrack are better than Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk
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Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk? Not Kingsmen caliber tenors in my book
I really hope you were joking, cause if not, I totally don't understand that!!!
I mean both of those are better than many kingsmen tenors. After all they were of enough "caliber" to sing with the Cathedral Quartet, one of the greatest male quartets in history.
Do you really think Jeremy Peace, Ernie Phillips or Garry Shepphard were as good as these 2 guys??
Wow, thats so unbelievable. I agree that Chris Collins and Jerry Martin are better, but those other guys, I just don't hear it. They all have their moments and all did good songs, but its hard to beat Ernie Haase singing "O What a Saviour", or Danny's "Somebody Touched Me"
Well guys, there's no right or wrong answer here, it's just a matter of personal taste! a lot of people like a certain singer, and then other people can't stand that same singer. So , everybody has their favorites.
That is very true, the only thing that really took me aback was the statement that they were not of the "caliber" of Kingsmen tenors. Those 2 guys have a combined 11 Singing News Fan Awards for tenor. To me those credentials make them the "caliber" to be with any group. Now, does their sound "fit" with the Kingsmen style. Not really, but I have thoght that of several singers in different groups.
It's almost like the stuff you see in sports. The guy's a bum if he doesn't play for my team. His MVP award was rigged, the year he won the Heisman there was no competition...etc...
Then that guy gets traded to your team and he's the greatest of all time!!!!
I have my fav. groups, but I also can see that there are many, many talented groups aside from my favorites, and to be just totally honest, I'd say that any of the top 5 or 6 groups could "probably" just start interchanging members, and all be just as good once they had time to blend in with the new group.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 8:49:51 AM
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Hey, the new song that we just recorded "He Is The Only One" (on our new recording) is a new song, co-written by Scoot Shelnut. Not an old Kingsmen song.
I hope it's a great song; the original was a gem. It's a shame that the new one is using the same title as it'll just create confusion.
It really shouldn't. The old one is so old that most people have probably never heard of it. I know I hadn't.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 8:31:56 PM
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KingsmenQaurtetFan I agree 100% with you. Ernie Haase or Danny Funderburk is not the caliber tenors the Kingsmen tenors are. Someone said it would be hard to imagine someone singing O What a savior like Ernie, well Jerry Martin did on a recording and in my opinion blew Ernie out of the water. Someone also said that Ernie and Danny both won several singing news awards, let me just say that the singing news awards are for favorites not best.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 10:27:15 PM
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Yea I do...In my opinion, Jeremy Peace, Jerry Martin, Ernie Phillips, Gary Shepphard, Chris Collins, Harold Reed, and Johnny Parrack are better than Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk
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Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk? Not Kingsmen caliber tenors in my book
I really hope you were joking, cause if not, I totally don't understand that!!!
I mean both of those are better than many kingsmen tenors. After all they were of enough "caliber" to sing with the Cathedral Quartet, one of the greatest male quartets in history.
Do you really think Jeremy Peace, Ernie Phillips or Garry Shepphard were as good as these 2 guys??
Wow, thats so unbelievable. I agree that Chris Collins and Jerry Martin are better, but those other guys, I just don't hear it. They all have their moments and all did good songs, but its hard to beat Ernie Haase singing "O What a Saviour", or Danny's "Somebody Touched Me"
Pehaps you are just not listening 
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 10:51:00 PM
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tenorsister, you are right about "O What a Savior". Indeed, there are many very good versions of it and it is one of those tenor qualifying songs. I just listed it with Ernie H. because I think his version is the best I have heard, follwed very, very closely by Brian Free, who is, IMO the very best tenor ever to pick up a microphone.
As far as Danny's "Somebody Touched Me", I have never heard it sung better than by him period.
I also agree that Ernie and Danny's style was more suited to the Cathedrals than to the Kingsmen. The Cathedrals were always a more polished sounding group, whereas the Kingsmen have always been all about high energy, live crowds, big notes and lots of dust flying!!!
As far as caliber, with the couple of people who have said they
weren't the caliber tenors for the Kingsmen, I think that we may be defining caliber differently. Caliber is not about style or fitting with a group, or a particular sound, but about quality of talent. I think those 2 are every bit as good talent wise as anyone. If you folks that are saying they aren't Kingsmen caliber mean they arent the type of tenor the Kingsmen look for, then I agree. They are different, but just as good, IMO.
It is very interesting also, how 2 people can hear the same person, and have 2 different opinions about their voice. At the time he was with the Kingsmen, I thought Chris Collins was tons better than Johnny Parrack, Ernie Phillips or Gary Shepherd, but those 3 are usually on peoples lists of best Kingsmen tenors above Chris. I really wish Chris had stayed longer and had the body of work that some of the others did.
I would also put Randy Crawford and Brian Hutson above Jim Hamill in favorite leads with the group.
I also wonder if alot of our opinions come from the point when we started listening to the Kingsmen. The first lineup I heard was Chris Collins, Tim Surrett, Parker Jonathan and Ray Reese, and the group that I have heard most of all was Jerry, Bryan, Parker and Ray.
My experiences with Jim, Fox, Squire, Ernie and all those came after I became a Kingsmen fan. As far as albums go, my favorites as far as time periods would be between "New Life" and "Good News". To me, the men who made up the lineups in that span, Chris, Jerry, Tim, Bryan, Randy, Parker and Ray, are THE best Kingsmen singers ever.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 10:52:30 PM
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Yea I do...In my opinion, Jeremy Peace, Jerry Martin, Ernie Phillips, Gary Shepphard, Chris Collins, Harold Reed, and Johnny Parrack are better than Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk
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Ernie Haase and Danny Funderburk? Not Kingsmen caliber tenors in my book
I really hope you were joking, cause if not, I totally don't understand that!!!
I mean both of those are better than many kingsmen tenors. After all they were of enough "caliber" to sing with the Cathedral Quartet, one of the greatest male quartets in history.
Do you really think Jeremy Peace, Ernie Phillips or Garry Shepphard were as good as these 2 guys??
Wow, thats so unbelievable. I agree that Chris Collins and Jerry Martin are better, but those other guys, I just don't hear it. They all have their moments and all did good songs, but its hard to beat Ernie Haase singing "O What a Saviour", or Danny's "Somebody Touched Me"
Pehaps you are just not listening
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the Kingsmen have had a "bad" tenor. I guess Derrick Boyd is as close as they've came, but he was solid. He just wasn't a real dynamic tenor.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 11:04:13 PM
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Listen to Big And Live and then see what u think. By far the best live Kingsmen album EVER! In my opinion 
I have it. It's a great album, but I think I like Big and Live again a tad more.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 11:05:27 PM
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I very much enjoyed Derrick Boyd's tenure as a Kingsmen/Carolina Boy. I disagree that Derrick wasnt dynamic, cuz I feel like he was very much dynamic like the tenors of the Kingsmen have been
Just so I know where you are coming from, is there any singer in any group who is better than any singer the Kingsmen have had??
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/5/2009 11:05:28 PM
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I very much enjoyed Derrick Boyd's tenure as a Kingsmen/Carolina Boy. I disagree that Derrick wasnt dynamic, cuz I feel like he was very much dynamic like the tenors of the Kingsmen have been
Yes and Derrick is an Ed ONeal graduate so.......
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/6/2009 7:42:08 PM
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Okay guys, here is a hint for the trivia question . . . if I'm thinking correctly, in 1998 this tenor was inducted into the Gospel Music Hall Of Fame. (Hope that helps!!!)
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/7/2009 1:52:06 AM
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It really shouldn't. The old one is so old that most people have probably never heard of it. I know I hadn't.
Hopefully there's a group out there that will be motivated to re-record the original giving it their special touch like the Kingsmen did. I haven't heard the new song. I just know I love the original but would like to see an updated version using the lastest recording equipment and techniques. I think the credits say the song is "traditional" so may reduce the cost of adding the song to a new project.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/7/2009 2:42:43 AM
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Okay guys, here is a hint for the trivia question . . . if I'm thinking correctly, in 1998 this tenor was inducted into the Gospel Music Hall Of Fame. (Hope that helps!!!)
Might it be Bobby Strickland?
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 7/8/2009 3:08:20 AM
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Well it can't be Larry because he's a bass so I will go with the tenor for the Stamps ... Rick Strickland.
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