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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/8/2008 9:23:04 AM   
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I think there's a decent explanation for that as well. Suppose I was to take some time off of writing and speaking. I wouldn't really need my personal website (danielmount.com) during that time.

But I would still play the $5 or $6 per month for the hosting (and, since I had the hosting, keep the old site up) for a very simple reason. If I keep the domain and keep the site live, then I am not running the chance of someone else snatching it up when I let it lapse.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/8/2008 9:31:23 AM   
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Lenny, for whatever it is worth, I have quite a bit of background in web design. Comparing the cost of the domain and hosting with the cost of paying someone to maintain it, the cost of hosting the domain is by far the lesser cost.

Throwing some actual numbers out there, a group can pay $4 or $5 per month for hosting if they have a decent plan, while they could pay a web designer $20-$40 per hour, which could be $100-$500 per month.

Maybe this will help illuminate the matter.



Daniel, I too have a history of web designing, too much for me to want to think about. All the work it takes makes my brain tired.

However the actual cost was not my point. My original thought and question was why spend ANY money if it is always going to be info of past dates, with not current and up to date news.

Thanks for the cost breakdown though.

And now for the OFFICIAL word on the OFFICIAL KINGSMEN WEBSITE......



RE: Kingsmen Website


Ok, yeah I have been reading it too...here goes.


Arron Crisler set up the site over a year ago. He said he would help us change things once it was up and running. After Jeremy Peace left, Brandon asked me to take it over. (Jeremy was maintaining the site.)

Since I took it over, I have kept the dates updated and the news. I have attempted numerous times, to "get into" the site and add pictures, and other features, but the truth is, I don't know how to do all the things that needs to be done. It irratates me as well, but I can only do what I know to do.
I have learned how to do certain things, mainly thru trial and error.
We are talking with the webmaster's who built "The Isaacs" website, about redoing our website, and I promise when they rebuild it, I will have the codes and know how to change and update it.
I KNOW how to work the Kingsmen Myspace, and that is updated daily. The website will be as well.
WE care about our fans and friends staying in contact with The Kingsmen via the internet.
Thank you for being patient with us.

Bryan

I received this message last evening from Bryan after sending him a message thru the Kingsmen myspace site. I wanted to post this here so that all would know and have actual information about the website. Hope this helps and settles all the questions.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/8/2008 11:26:29 AM   
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And now for the OFFICIAL word on the OFFICIAL KINGSMEN WEBSITE......

RE: Kingsmen Website

Ok, yeah I have been reading it too...here goes.

Since I took it over, I have kept the dates updated and the news. I have attempted numerous times, to "get into" the site and add pictures, and other features, but the truth is, I don't know how to do all the things that needs to be done. It irritates me as well, but I can only do what I know to do.
I have learned how to do certain things, mainly thru trial and error.
We are talking with the webmaster's who built "The Isaacs" website, about redoing our website, and I promise when they rebuild it, I will have the codes and know how to change and update it.
I KNOW how to work the Kingsmen MySpace, and that is updated daily. The website will be as well.
WE care about our fans and friends staying in contact with The Kingsmen via the internet.
Thank you for being patient with us.

Bryan


That is an answer that will do as an explanation. It is a shame that their website is basically setting idle due to the reasons Bryan gave. One of my original points were that a lot more older(oops) fans look for for the easiest way to get to any website and http://kingsmenquartet.com/20072/index.html for them is the best route.

I have website experience and even I don't care for MySpace, From my point of view it is not that user friendly to those that are close to being Web/PC illiterate.

For me that is the end of my thoughts on the Kingsmen website.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/8/2008 11:36:41 AM   
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I'm one of those older fans and I don't go to myspace for various reasons. I know some of the sites are ok but I just have a thing about myspace that I dislike. I keep up with SG Groups appearances through their webpage schedule, the agents schedule and Singing News. The booking agents has a schedule of all the artist they represent and a couple of them has them listed by states. One has all the concerts that their artist has booked all through 2009. So it's easy to make plans this way.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/8/2008 11:51:47 AM   
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 2:22:44 PM   
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The more I listen to the Kingsmen's new CD and really the last couple, the more something bugs me. I'm not sure I love Phillip Hughes as a lead singer in this particular group. I spent yesteday listening to some of my older Kingsmen CDs and then listened to this new one. I dont know if its just him, or if it has to do with arrangement, but for me (and this is just a personal preference, not a slight against him) but I think he sings too high for a lead. I noticed, and my wife agreed after listening, that some songs, when they go from a Tenor part to lead part, it sounds like 2 tenors. Now, on songs where all 4 guys are singing together, its not as noticable. I really like the Bryan Hutson, Randy Crawford type lead voice better. Tim Surrett was a little high too, but it seemed that his voice and the tenor's were enough different, that it worked.
This is coming strictly from someone who like listening to a group, not someone who knows anything about keys or pitch or anything like that.
I have read some on the Gold City thread about how someone didnt like a particluar part because it was the wrong pitch. I havent the foggiest about that, I just know what is pleasing to the ears and what isnt.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 2:24:47 PM   
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Also, let me say, that I do like Phillip. Listening to the songs where he is out front singing, he has a terrific voice, I just dont think it meshes well with this quartet's sound, when they are singing traditional SG songs.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 2:27:07 PM   
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I have a solution for the guys that dont like myspace.
Just have someone on here, (tenorsister seems to know alot about it) paste some addresses. click those and then save that page in your favorites. Then you can access the groups myspace pages without having to traverse myspace yourself. I dont blame you for not liking some of the stuff that is on myspace. This will keep you from being exposed to stuff you dont like.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 2:34:13 PM   
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I have a funny line from Ray Dean Reece from back when the group changed from the Kingsmen to Carolina Boys.
It was at Dollywood in October of 2001 if Im not mistaken. He said that his idea for the new group name was:
Ray Dean Reece and Reece's Pieces!!!!
That was one of my favorite lines of his.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 3:12:07 PM   
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Well the Kingsmen did just switch tenors when Phil was singing lead - if he's a natural tenor you'd have thought he would've taken the position and had Bryan sing the lead again. Obviously, Phil is more comfortable at lead.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 3:16:37 PM   
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yeah, seems as if it would have made sense to do that. I dont know if Phillip is considered a tenor, but he is very high sometimes. I always wondered if it was weird for Bryan to sing the same songs he used to sing, but sing a differnent part, same as when Tim did that. Left as lead and came back as baritone. Maybe its no big deal to him, being a professional.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 9:08:18 PM   
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yeah, seems as if it would have made sense to do that. I dont know if Phillip is considered a tenor, but he is very high sometimes. I always wondered if it was weird for Bryan to sing the same songs he used to sing, but sing a differnent part, same as when Tim did that. Left as lead and came back as baritone. Maybe its no big deal to him, being a professional.

While I agree that Phil can sing high sometimes being a Kingsmen tenor you need to sing high all the time and perhaps this is something Phil does not wish to do. I am sure if Phil had wanted to be the tenor he could have been but I think the guys sound great and each does their part very well. I also know that there are those who were and some who still are, skeptical of Harold as the tenor for the Kingsmen and so I guess the point is that everyone has an opinion but at the end of the day that is all it is simply an opinion and nothing can be done to change why things are the way they are so we merely share and respect opinions and go on. Of course this is just.....MY OPINION!

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 9:48:08 PM   
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I totally agree with you tenorsister...there is nothing that can be done, but I have always enjoyed sharing opinions and discussing things, even things that I have no way of or desire of controlling.
BTW, I'm not at all skeptical of harold. After hearing him on the new cd and hearing him do some of the old stuff on youtube, I like his tone very much.

I read something on another thread about stacking vocals. What is this, and how is it done, if anyone knows?

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 10:21:07 PM   
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Stacking vocals is merely recording yourself singing your part, and then recording again (and again) over that part singing it the same way. Many groups even use them in live settings - other than for solos, they have their part recorded and playing in the soundtrack so it's not so hard on their voices.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 11:00:15 PM   
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I totally agree with you tenorsister...there is nothing that can be done, but I have always enjoyed sharing opinions and discussing things, even things that I have no way of or desire of controlling.
BTW, I'm not at all skeptical of harold. After hearing him on the new cd and hearing him do some of the old stuff on youtube, I like his tone very much.

I read something on another thread about stacking vocals. What is this, and how is it done, if anyone knows?

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Bill I was not implying you thought this of Harold but rathr just stating what had been a concern in the past. Thank you for your kind words on his snging. As I always say "I have had to hear that kid sing every since our mom and dad brought him home.....I'm just glad he finally got it right!" LOL
Let'ds just feel free to share our opinions at any time because as you said we can do so let's just "discuss".

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/10/2008 11:50:28 PM   
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Tenor Sister: Ask your brother if he has been put to the test, singing-wise, by a 10 yr old tenor in the past month.


Ok so I talked to Harold today and I remembered to ask him about this finally. He told me about a boy that sang with his family and that the boy was good. He said the boy did not get to sing with him. Is this the one you are asking about or is this something different?

Yes, that is the one. It was at Fairfield, IL. Harold kept referring to "that little one", and said that that little one inspired him (to sing really high on a song) after the little boy, his older brother, and their Dad sang together. I think I saw them getting a picture made together, but they did not sing on stage together.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/11/2008 9:15:55 PM   
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I never cared for Phillip Hughes as a lead singer. Yes, he can sing high, but his voice does not reach out and grab you the way the lead singer should do. When you hear Bryan Hutson on the melody, there is a better blend. Phillip's voice is too thin to sing lead.
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/11/2008 9:16:57 PM   
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I know you weren't implying that. I just thought it was a good place to say that I do like him as the new tenor!!!! I like the fact that he is a big guy too. There are enough little guy tenors out there, make room for the Big Man!!!
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I totally agree with you tenorsister...there is nothing that can be done, but I have always enjoyed sharing opinions and discussing things, even things that I have no way of or desire of controlling.
BTW, I'm not at all skeptical of harold. After hearing him on the new cd and hearing him do some of the old stuff on youtube, I like his tone very much.

I read something on another thread about stacking vocals. What is this, and how is it done, if anyone knows?

God Bless
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Bill I was not implying you thought this of Harold but rathr just stating what had been a concern in the past. Thank you for your kind words on his snging. As I always say "I have had to hear that kid sing every since our mom and dad brought him home.....I'm just glad he finally got it right!" LOL
Let'ds just feel free to share our opinions at any time because as you said we can do so let's just "discuss".
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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/11/2008 10:16:50 PM   
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I know that the Kingsmen have just released their brand new CD.."When God Ran", but i also wish that they could make a DVD with all these new songs on it, that would be sweeeeeet!

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 1:00:19 AM   
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I know you weren't implying that. I just thought it was a good place to say that I do like him as the new tenor!!!! I like the fact that he is a big guy too. There are enough little guy tenors out there, make room for the Big Man!!!
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ORIGINAL: BillBaileyKQFan

I totally agree with you tenorsister...there is nothing that can be done, but I have always enjoyed sharing opinions and discussing things, even things that I have no way of or desire of controlling.
BTW, I'm not at all skeptical of harold. After hearing him on the new cd and hearing him do some of the old stuff on youtube, I like his tone very much.

I read something on another thread about stacking vocals. What is this, and how is it done, if anyone knows?

God Bless
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Bill I was not implying you thought this of Harold but rather just stating what had been a concern in the past. Thank you for your kind words on his singing. As I always say "I have had to hear that kid sing every since our mom and dad brought him home.....I'm just glad he finally got it right!" LOL
Let's just feel free to share our opinions at any time because as you said we can do so let's just "discuss".


I agree!!!! If I told you his nickname from childhood you would see why I agree but alas I can not. My dad used to say "sing that one for me big boy". Our parents were Harold's biggest fans! So yeah.......Make room for the "big man".

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 10:02:00 AM   
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I never cared for Phillip Hughes as a lead singer. Yes, he can sing high, but his voice does not reach out and grab you the way the lead singer should do. When you hear Bryan Hutson on the melody, there is a better blend. Phillip's voice is too thin to sing lead.



Well in that case, you'd think he'd sing baritone. That's what he's singing when Bryan takes the lead.

Phil's a great guy and a good singer. Maybe some think he'd fit better at tenor or baritone, but let's just see if we can keep this lineup together for longer than a few months for once! They're sounding better than ever.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 11:18:13 AM   
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Amen! Phillip is a great guy and I love his rendition of "Hide Thou Me"
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I never cared for Phillip Hughes as a lead singer. Yes, he can sing high, but his voice does not reach out and grab you the way the lead singer should do. When you hear Bryan Hutson on the melody, there is a better blend. Phillip's voice is too thin to sing lead.



Well in that case, you'd think he'd sing baritone. That's what he's singing when Bryan takes the lead.

Phil's a great guy and a good singer. Maybe some think he'd fit better at tenor or baritone, but let's just see if we can keep this lineup together for longer than a few months for once! They're sounding better than ever.


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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 12:37:28 PM   
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I have the opportunity to see the mighty kingsmen tommorow night. I'm helping to promote the concert..so i am excited. Anoother thing...I FINALLY GET TO BUY THE NEW CD! Sometimes its tough to find new releases even though we have stores who carry a pretty strong selection

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 1:19:53 PM   
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I have the opportunity to see the mighty kingsmen tommorow night. I'm helping to promote the concert..so i am excited. Anoother thing...I FINALLY GET TO BUY THE NEW CD! Sometimes its tough to find new releases even though we have stores who carry a pretty strong selection

Be sure to tell Harold that we chat on the forums. It seems that all who do he has a comment for.LOL You may also tell him that his sister Amy calls him Dweebo and if he isn't good she will tell his childhood nickname.LOL That should get a response from him.

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RE: The Kingsmen Thread - 6/12/2008 1:26:05 PM   
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As for Phil.....I love Phil as the lead. The video clip I have included reminds me so much of Big Jim. I think Phil is AWESOME with the Kingsmen!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0k8vbWw4A

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