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Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 8:15:38 AM
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pinopolitan
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According to any standard of measure, how can anybody argue that His resurrection was not "right"? Please so phrase your answer that a 6th grader can understand it.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 8:33:19 AM
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I'm not sure I understand whatcha mean. Are you saying some argue that the Resurrection couldn't have happened, that it was "scientifically" impossible? Or are you saying it was wrong for him to Resurrect?
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 8:48:25 AM
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Only Satan would suggest that Christ's resurrection was not right.
Christ's resurrection was inevitable since He died for our sins and "rose again for our justification". Not only that but He Himself is "the Resurrection and the Life".
Through His death, the Lord destroyed the power of sin, Hell, death and Satan (Heb. 2:14). Through His resurrection, He established that He is both Lord (God) and Christ (Savior and King). See Acts 2:32-36.
All salvation, all power, all authority, and all judgment now rightly belongs to Him, and Satan will be judged by Him. That's why Satan does not think that Christ's resurrection was "right". It destroyed his kingdom.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 9:48:49 AM
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I agree with Ezra. Not only that, but doubting Christ's resurrection doubts scripture which is the world of God. It is impossible to be a Christian without faith in the resurrection. The Bible IS proof, not science.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 10:19:34 AM
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Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead?
The resurrection is right because Jesus Christ lived a sinless life...death had no right to Him. The resurrection is right because without it we, who believe, would still be dead in our sins, with no possibility of life. Christ's death on the cross took away the sins of the world, once for all. And His resurrection gives back to us the life that was lost due to sin...
Romans 5:10
"For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!"
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 1:23:18 PM
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"He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."(1Peter 2:22)
'When[the]Lord Jesus Christ was here on earth He suffered two kinds of suffering; He suffered as a human being down here when He became a man, suffering for righteousness' sake and second He suffered for the sins of the world as a worthy sacrifice. Now, His suffering for the sins of the world is not an example for us—it is our Redemption. It is something we believe, accept, appropriate and inherit but we can by no means imitate it. However, in His life down here He did leave us an example emulate by[His]sacrifice and obedience. In Nazareth during His first thirty years He suffered ridicule and misunderstanding as Psalm 69 makes clear. Then, when He moved out in a public ministry scripture records how He suffered for righteousness' sake. When you and I suffer for our faith we remember the example He left for us in that connection.' (J.Vernon McGee 'Thru the Bible')
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 1:52:02 PM
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Child4Jesus
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Where is what Paul said:
1 Corinthians 15 (New King James Version)
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. 12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead . 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.”But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. 29 Otherwise, what will they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all? Why then are they baptized for the dead? 30 And why do we stand in jeopardy every hour? 31 I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32 If, in the manner of men, I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantage is it to me? If the dead do not rise, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!” 33 Do not be deceived: “Evil company corrupts good habits.” 34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame. 35 But someone will say, “How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?” 36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain—perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” 55 “O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” 56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
Read the entire Chapter to see how important the resurrection is.
First He was seen by his disciples, over 500 other people who had, and Paul who had no reason to conspire. Then there is the fact that our faith is in vain. If Christ isn’t raise from the dead He isn’t who He says He is and we are still waiting for the Messiah. Now Christ is not raised; we are still dead in our sins and have no hope. There is no future glory of being raised from the dead. Death is not conquered and we are fools because we are believing a lie.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 2:21:37 PM
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HardKnox
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Interesting that Paul in acts 17, before the Greek philosophers, does not try to prove how Jesus' resurrection could have happened. He puts it forth to them as an irrefutable event based on God's word and then calls them to repentance based on the fact of Christ's resurrection. It doesn't have to be proven beyond the testimony of scripture. Those who do not accept it must be prepared to disprove it.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 2:40:12 PM
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pinopolitan
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How does the resurrection of Jesus indicate or prove the true holiness of His life?
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 2:48:40 PM
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Child4Jesus
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How does the resurrection of Jesus indicate or prove the true holiness of His life?
If He did not rise He would just have been another so called prophet. He would have been proven to be a liar.
His sinlessness proved the true holiness of His life.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 2:56:35 PM
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HardKnox
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His resurrection also proved his divine nature. God is holy.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 2:57:45 PM
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LCannon
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How does the resurrection of Jesus indicate or prove the true holiness of His life?
That's not the point. The point is He was(is)holy by His very nature and obedience(to the Father). "[Jesus] proved He had a valid claim [to His Deity] but His own rejected His claim yet as many as receives His message; to them he claimed the right to become redeemed of God and appropriate His Name.“ John 1:11,12
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only Bach. I am sure, however, that when they are together en famille they
play Mozart and then too our dear Lord listens with special pleasure."(Karl Barth)
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 3:01:15 PM
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HardKnox
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That's not the point. The point is He was(is)holy by His very nature and obedience(to the Father). "[Jesus] proved He had a valid claim [to His Deity] but His own rejected His claim yet as many as receives His message; to them he claimed the right to become redeemed of God and appropriate His Name.“ John 1:11,1
That's an odd translation. Which one is it?
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 3:24:37 PM
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To understand how the sacrifice of Jesus(atonement) satisfies God, we must know what God says. God uses His law of death on the account of sin to implement the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. God says, in Romans 6:23, "for the wages of sin is [spiritual] death, but the gift of God is eternal (spiritual) life in Christ Jesus our Lord. and, Deut.21:23, "His body shall not remain overnight on the tree (cross), but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who hangs on a tree is accursed of God."
Jesus was taken off the cross that same day He died so the curse of sin would stay on Him. Lev.17:11, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the alter to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul." Heb. 9:22, "for without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin"
When Jesus finished all that needed to done;
(1) Curse of the law to be taken away (2Corinth 5:21, Gal 3:13).
(a) For the setting free of the captive slave of the law(Luke 4:18, Galatians 5:1).
(2) Blood to be shed for the cleansing/purging from the guilt and the clearing of the conscience of the guilt of sin (Ephesians 1:7 & Colossians 1:14)
(a) purchasing/redeeming from the judgment of sin which is our forgiveness(Ephesians 1:7 & 1 Corinthians 6:20 & 7:23).
God accepted His sacrifice. In verification of Gods' acceptance, He raised Jesus from the dead. The resurrection is the basis of our Faith 1Corinth 15:14 and if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
God lets there be a proxy (replacement for you & I) to take the judgment, but the proxy must not be guilty like the one accused or he would be taking the judgment for himself and not for us.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 4:42:51 PM
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How does the resurrection of Jesus indicate or prove the true holiness of His life?
Death is the penalty for sin. Death had no hold on Him because He was without sin. He only subjected Himself to sin in order to pay for our sin. His resurrection shows that He reigns over death. If you can see what death is, you can see how His resurrection shows forth His righteousness. His sinlessness is what causes Him to have power over death. That is why we are made righteous, because we died in Him, we were crucified with Him, raised with Him, and made righteous with Him... it is Christianity.
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RE: Why is it right that Christ was raised from the dead? - 11/13/2008 4:50:55 PM
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LCannon
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That's not the point. The point is He was(is)holy by His very nature and obedience(to the Father). "[Jesus] proved He had a valid claim [to His Deity] but His own rejected His claim yet as many as receives His message; to them he claimed the right to become redeemed of God and appropriate His Name.“ John 1:11,1
That's an odd translation. Which one is it?
'My' translation(paraphrase).
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only Bach. I am sure, however, that when they are together en famille they
play Mozart and then too our dear Lord listens with special pleasure."(Karl Barth)
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