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What would you do? - 11/4/2008 9:38:22 AM   
deliveredarling


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I have a friend, more like used to be a friend ( she began distancing herself when she realized that I would not support her lesbian relationship). She was "laid" of from her job for medical reasons 7 months ago. Prior to that, she had not be at work for 2 months because of a medical condition they could not find. Meanwhile, she was supposed to be visiting doctors and such, she was running around "helping" homeless people.
Her job laid her off and she filed for unemployment. She is no longer "sick" and still does not work. She happen to call the other day and began telling me about her financial woes. I asked her if there was a reason she was not working. She said, "you mean besides the fact that I draw$268.oo a week?". I said, "you are kidding, right?" She said No.

I am appalled that there are people out there who have a true need for the money and yet she feels that it is ok to do what she is doing.

She says , it's all in God's timing. I told her that was a cop out and a poor excuse. I asked her if, "you do not work, you do not eat" rings a bell. She got mad at me and said we will talk later.

What would you do. Personally, I feel like it's fraud. Thoughts?

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 12:55:09 PM   
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I am appalled that there are people out there who have a true need for the money and yet she feels that it is ok to do what she is doing.


Not that I agree with taking money that isn't your's, but isn't there a time limit when you file for unemployment? I seem to remember that I got a check for about 6 weeks and then it stopped. Maybe she's just waiting tillher time limit runs out? If I knew that she was capable of working and had no intension of gettign a job I wouldn't give her a penny.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 1:04:12 PM   
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Not that I agree with taking money that isn't your's, but isn't there a time limit when you file for unemployment? I seem to remember that I got a check for about 6 weeks and then it stopped. Maybe she's just waiting tillher time limit runs out? If I knew that she was capable of working and had no intension of gettign a job I wouldn't give her a penny.


I looked it up and in Texas the limit is 12 months.

She has been drawing this for 7 months now with no intention of getting a job. She can't pay her bills, her daughter doesn't attend school because she "homeschools", yet I know for a fact that she doesn't do this either. She wants to be elected as an officer for our local homeless consortium. Now, how can a woman who doesn't have her life straight and is on the verge of being homeless herself intend to help the homeless?

I suppose if she couldn't beat them, she decided to join them

I just keep thinking about all the people who have lost their jobs due to the economy and her taking what is rightfully theirs. It just makes me mad and sad. Supporting her position and using God to justify it makes me ill.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 1:11:09 PM   
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Now, how can a woman who doesn't have her life straight and is on the verge of being homeless herself intend to help the homeless?


Is she trying to "put the shoe on the other foot" per se ? This woman sounds like she has more problems than just not having a job. She homeschools, but doesn't really? Are you in a postion to counsel her? If you feel like you should I would counsel her and leave it alone. I'm assuming she's not a believer so you can't really hold her accountable to biblical standards, but you can love her by counseling her.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 1:30:01 PM   
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Is she trying to "put the shoe on the other foot" per se ? This woman sounds like she has more problems than just not having a job. She home schools, but doesn't really? Are you in a position to counsel her? If you feel like you should I would counsel her and leave it alone. I'm assuming she's not a believer so you can't really hold her accountable to biblical standards, but you can love her by counseling her.


She is a professed believer, that's why this makes me sick! She likes t tell people she home schools, to explain why her daughter isn't in school. her daughter is 15 and is a wreck. This woman moves addicts into her home under the guise of helping them. They don't get clean or stay clean. She doesn't do it for the knowledge gaining experience. I think it's what feeds her. She is a chaos junkie. She was my friend and we were pretty close at one time. That was until she decided she was a lesbian. I was still her friend but she didn't like me referring to scripture when she was trying to figure it all out. Sadi she couldn't get a clear answer from God. Apparently reading it in black and white wasn't an answer from God

When she called the other day, she brought it up and I casually counseled her in what I felt God was directing me to say. Her "friend" made an arrangement with the courts to go to re-hab. The re-hab costs $3000. That is the excuse for her not attending the treatment center-they don't have the money. (Gee, I wonder why????)
During this conversation she claimed that God was having her sit still and it's all in His timing. I told her that was a cop out. I asked her a few questions about being able bodied and what will happen when the checks run out and the time limit expires for her friend to report to the treatment center. I reminded her of contempt of court. She said she knew all this and wanted to get off the phone. So much for holding her accountable....

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 1:45:19 PM   
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She claims to be a believer and a lesbian?? You can't be both. I wouldn't help her financially. If she is content with what she earns on unemployment, let her be content.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 1:50:43 PM   
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Do I as a Christian bear any responsibility to God, knowing what I know and do nothing?

I question this because it seems like, If I know this, then I should do something. I've prayed about it and I'm still discontent. I haven't received peace about it, yet.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 4:36:57 PM   
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If you know that she's putting her daughter at risk with what she's doing you could call the police or child welfare services. I would be concerned if she's bringing drunks and drug addicts home with a 15 yr old around, despite what God is telling her. I highly doubt God wants her child in harms way, but ... . If you're concened then I would ask God to take care of her. I was listening to the radio this morning and James McDonald was talking about God fighting our battles.

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RE: What would you do? - 11/4/2008 4:44:45 PM   
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Believe me, I would really like to just let it go and let God handle this. There have only been a very few times that I have a reaction like I am experiencing. That meant for me to take action. The problem is, I don't want to. I can come up with any number of excuses for not doing something. OTOH, I can think of plenty of reasons to do something. I fear for her daughter's safety as well as her own. She's already been beat up by a person she was "helping". She doesn't understand tough love, refuses to go to al-anon and now attends NA meetings calling herself an addict. She used drugs briefly 20 years ago. Her helping is enabling them to continue their behavior. She doesn't request that they attend church, she talks to them about God when it suits her, yet lives like a non-believer. There's just so many things that aren't right about this.

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