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The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist found! - 9/10/2009 3:31:36 PM
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yohannan
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I have seen on the history channel that the cave where The Lord directed John the Baptist to dwell and pray and baptize Himself regularly was found!
Also, I have seen that His Head is still existing because He was with The Holy Spirit in the womb in fulfillment carryforward advancement of The Testimony given through Jeremiah; and there is none greater in The Kingdom is written. There are some orders of Monks who would guard such Treasures with their lives.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/10/2009 4:10:46 PM
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Eutychus
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The History Channel is NOT a reliable source for Bible truth.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/10/2009 4:24:04 PM
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And considering that John's head was given to the daughter of Herodias and then to the mother, years before Christ's crucifixion and resurrection, much less before any monks were around to obtain it, it seems most unlikely to have survived in a recognizable state for anyone to know they had John's head.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/10/2009 4:38:04 PM
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You're saying John the Baptist's head is still alive? That's... disturbing.
LOL. God IS Eternal and He Was With John before birth as written.
For the Head of The Body is Christ is written so that John's Head would still be alive.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/10/2009 4:58:27 PM
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/10/2009 5:14:36 PM
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Didn't the history channel also promote the davinci code as real?
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/11/2009 12:41:15 PM
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You're saying John the Baptist's head is still alive? That's... disturbing.
LOL. God IS Eternal and He Was With John before birth as written.
For the Head of The Body is Christ is written so that John's Head would still be alive.
Hmm... that's a lot of capitalizin' there...
God is eternal, yes. He was with John, before his birth... hmm... ok. I think I get that.
The head of the body of believers is Christ, yes. And He is alive. So... in that way, the Head (aka, leader, boss, master) of John is still alive. But not John's head. Eww... I hope not!! Being severed and all.
So... I still don't get this part:
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Also, I have seen that His Head is still existing because He was with The Holy Spirit in the womb in fulfillment carryforward advancement of The Testimony given through Jeremiah; and there is none greater in The Kingdom is written. There are some orders of Monks who would guard such Treasures with their lives.
I'm having trouble understanding what you've typed - so much capitalization. I usually only cap He, His, Him, and such if I am referring to the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. (Or if the word is at the beginning of the sentence.) Hence... my confusion.
Cave - where John the Baptist lived? Interesting.
John the Baptist was anointed w/ the Holy Spirit while in the womb, as I understand the Bible passage on that... But indwelt w/ the Holy Spirit? I'm not sure. Hmm....
What treasures are the monks guarding? Scriptures, I hope. Relics? Meh. Bones and such have no power.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/11/2009 1:24:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: SuspenseWriter
You're saying John the Baptist's head is still alive? That's... disturbing.
LOL. God IS Eternal and He Was With John before birth as written.
For the Head of The Body is Christ is written so that John's Head would still be alive.
Hmm... that's a lot of capitalizin' there...
God is eternal, yes. He was with John, before his birth... hmm... ok. I think I get that.
The head of the body of believers is Christ, yes. And He is alive. So... in that way, the Head (aka, leader, boss, master) of John is still alive. But not John's head. Eww... I hope not!! Being severed and all.
So... I still don't get this part:
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Also, I have seen that His Head is still existing because He was with The Holy Spirit in the womb in fulfillment carryforward advancement of The Testimony given through Jeremiah; and there is none greater in The Kingdom is written. There are some orders of Monks who would guard such Treasures with their lives.
I'm having trouble understanding what you've typed - so much capitalization. I usually only cap He, His, Him, and such if I am referring to the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit. (Or if the word is at the beginning of the sentence.) Hence... my confusion.
Cave - where John the Baptist lived? Interesting.
John the Baptist was anointed w/ the Holy Spirit while in the womb, as I understand the Bible passage on that... But indwelt w/ the Holy Spirit? I'm not sure. Hmm....
What treasures are the monks guarding? Scriptures, I hope. Relics? Meh. Bones and such have no power.
Peace, Elena!
There is a Scripture regarding the bones of the servant Prophet appointed following Elijah called Elisha who was tending a yoke of oxen to plough His parents field when called.
This Prophet healed the Noble of Syria called Namaan which Christ commemorated in the sending of the blind man to cleanse himself in the poltace in the obedience to The Command to wash in a certain pool.
The bones of Elisha were found one day and they caused one more person who had touched them to be made healed is written. For With God nothing is impossible and with the one who has faith which is bestowed by the Grace of The Spirit of God The Enabler.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/11/2009 1:32:34 PM
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The bones of Elisha were found one day and they caused one more person who had touched them to be made healed is written.
Where is it written thusly?
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For With God nothing is impossible and with the one who has faith which is bestowed by the Grace of The Spirit of God The Enabler.
God has the power. Bones do not.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/11/2009 1:39:27 PM
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I have seen on the history channel that the cave where The Lord directed John the Baptist to dwell and pray and baptize Himself regularly was found! Why would Our Lord direct John to baptize himself regularly? One only needs to be baptized once.
Additionally, water inside of caves usually aren't that, uhm, fresh. Nor deep. I can't imagine that John would be baptizing himself in shallow, stale water. Not only does that not sound feasible nor sanitary, it also doesn't sound very symbolic of nor connected to Living Waters.
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Also, I have seen that His Head is still existing because He was with The Holy Spirit in the womb in fulfillment carryforward advancement of The Testimony given through Jeremiah; and there is none greater in The Kingdom is written. Where did you see what you think to be the head of John the Baptist?
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/11/2009 2:27:04 PM
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...with the one who has faith which is bestowed by the Grace of The Spirit of God The Enabler.
Faith is only as valid as the one in whom it is placed. You can be sincerely but sincerely wrong.
I still prefer to place my faith in whom the Bible was written about, not in some statements made on the History Channel.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/14/2009 7:59:42 AM
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Didn't the history channel also promote the davinci code as real? And that the entire universe was sneezed out by the Great Arkelsesiure.
No wait - that was the syfy channel....
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 9/16/2009 8:16:28 PM
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The bones of Elisha were found one day and they caused one more person who had touched them to be made healed is written.
Where is it written thusly?
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For With God nothing is impossible and with the one who has faith which is bestowed by the Grace of The Spirit of God The Enabler.
God has the power. Bones do not.
Well, I have not really looked into the whereabouts of John's head per se, but I can assure you that thru out history it has been located supposedly (along with his right hand) thru out Europe and the Middle East in various monastaries and cathedrals. I have no faith whatsoever in the so-called "relics".
However, yohannan is quite correct here: The bones of Elisha were found one day and they caused one more person who had touched them to be made healed is written.
That story is here: 2Ki 13:21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulcher of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet.
Here a group of men were burying someone. They see a group of men heading their way...it seems these guys were up to no good. The burial bunch just drops or tosses the dead body into the grave of Elisha. When the dead body and the already-been-dead bones of Elisha meet, the former comes back to life.
That has to be the greatest resurrection story (next to Jesus) ever told.
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RE: The hiding and baptismal place of John the Baptist ... - 10/13/2009 12:02:15 PM
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What proof is there that the severed head is the actual head of John the Baptist? Couldn't it be most anyone? I assume that carbon dating was used to determine the age of the head? Carbon dating is also quite fallable regardless of the assurance that some scientists claim. I seem to remember that the bones of James, brother of Jesus were found.
I have to also say that coming from the History channel I'm not sure I'd take it all as Bibical fact but theory. Since there really is no way to prove it is John the Baptist's head it has to be theory.
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