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Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 9:00:48 AM
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I was reading about Prince Charles coming to the U.S to talk to Bush, he want's Bush to take it easier on the Islamics, why? I am wondering why he is taking this stance.
Does he and/or his stature come into play in the last days.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 9:44:24 AM
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Don't know how true this is since I've heard other conspiracy theories..but check out this
site www.lionlamb.net/Yavoh/archive/print/Nov2001PN.htm
actually talks about Prince Charles being the Anti-christ...don,t think I believe it just found it interesting...
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 9:45:59 AM
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I was reading about Prince Charles coming to the U.S to talk to Bush, he want's Bush to take it easier on the Islamics, why? I am wondering why he is taking this stance.
Does he and/or his stature come into play in the last days.
I kinda doubt it. His image on these shores is of the pathetic loser with big ears who refused to be a man and a prince to a popular and lovely woman. A figure for mockery, scorn, and public contempt rather than emulation.
(as an antichrist candidate, Chuck's not nearly as plausible as Gorbechav, or Kruschev before him, or Stalin before him, or Hitler before him, or Musollini before him or Wilson before him, or .... is it my imagination, or is the stature of the antichrist candidates steadily shrinking? Becoming ever more ludicrous, laughable, rediculous? Is Satan laughing at us behind our backs, trying to see how small a man we're willing to pin our expectations on?)
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 9:52:38 AM
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Go,
I believe he is considered the figure head of the Anglican Church, though certainly not a Christian. He claims decendancy from David, though I think he is seriously deluded. But I also hear he is ultra sympaththetic to Islam and more than likely honors the Koran over the Scriptures.
As far as his part to play in the endtime senario, only time will tell.
I read on a site long ago that his formal title....."Prince Charles of Wales" totals to 666 in the grk alphabet. But so have other historical figures fit that number.
A book has been written called "Prince Charles and a cup of tea". Can't remember the authors name. You might find it spoken of on the Southwest Radio Church site. Have'nt been there in a long time though.
So I think only time will tell as we move closer to the end of the Age.
Hope this helps,
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 10:49:16 AM
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Don't know how true this is since I've heard other conspiracy theories..but check out this
site www.lionlamb.net/Yavoh/archive/print/Nov2001PN.htm
actually talks about Prince Charles being the Anti-christ...don,t think I believe it just found it interesting...
thank you for the link, I didn't realize there was so much pointing to him, It would be just the way someone as we see as totally not in anyway to fit the bill, but seems the symbology is within the boundaries of don't count him out.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 10:55:16 AM
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I was reading about Prince Charles coming to the U.S to talk to Bush, he want's Bush to take it easier on the Islamics, why? I am wondering why he is taking this stance.
Does he and/or his stature come into play in the last days.
I kinda doubt it. His image on these shores is of the pathetic loser with big ears who refused to be a man and a prince to a popular and lovely woman. A figure for mockery, scorn, and public contempt rather than emulation.
(as an antichrist candidate, Chuck's not nearly as plausible as Gorbechav, or Kruschev before him, or Stalin before him, or Hitler before him, or Musollini before him or Wilson before him, or .... is it my imagination, or is the stature of the antichrist candidates steadily shrinking? Becoming ever more ludicrous, laughable, rediculous? Is Satan laughing at us behind our backs, trying to see how small a man we're willing to pin our expectations on?)
Hi Tom, I wasn't saying anything about the A/C I was just wondering why he was getting involved in this now, and if scripturally if there was any mention of the Queen or her family as other kings are talked about in the bible and where to look for in the bible for this if there is such scripture, everything else is covered in there.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 10:57:08 AM
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Thanks chalkstc, I'll look for the book sounds interesting.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 10:58:19 AM
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If he becomes king he will be head of the church of England. The guy's a chump. He was never faithful to his wife, nor even thought about being faithful to her. I hope Bush politely disregards everything he says.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 11:10:30 AM
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I believe he is considered the figure head of the Anglican Church, though certainly not a Christian. He claims decendancy from David, though I think he is seriously deluded. But I also hear he is ultra sympaththetic to Islam and more than likely honors the Koran over the Scriptures.
Certainly not a Christian?!? I think it's interesting that you feel like you can make this judgement about someone you have never met and only know about through tabloid articles. I don't know anything about Prince Charles' spiritual life but I know that no one knows a man's heart but God.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 7:32:02 PM
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I believe he is considered the figure head of the Anglican Church, though certainly not a Christian. He claims decendancy from David, though I think he is seriously deluded. But I also hear he is ultra sympaththetic to Islam and more than likely honors the Koran over the Scriptures.
Certainly not a Christian?!? I think it's interesting that you feel like you can make this judgement about someone you have never met and only know about through tabloid articles. I don't know anything about Prince Charles' spiritual life but I know that no one knows a man's heart but God.
Dear GratefulforGrace,
It is certainly true that we cannot know a man's heart, but we are instructed to "test the spirits, whether they be of God". Jesus told us we shall "know them by their fruits". The question then remains. What are the fruits of Prince Charles? To state just a few of his activities; He is instrumental in the "Green Movement", even as his father, Prince Phillip, oversees the World Wildlife Fund, and he has been a voice for toleration of all the world's religions, especially that of Islam. Indeed, His current trip to the USA is supposedly to push that agenda, perhaps while he also pushes "Agenda 21" and "Sustainable Development", which he fosters through the UN. Sounds quite benign, if not benevolent. All one big happy family, so to speak. However, I've done a little checking on the Bonny Prince Charles and here are some interesting facts gleaned from a Christian Web site: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/PrinceCharles/
Born: 14 November 1948
Best Known As: The Next King of England
Name at Birth: Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor
Ramifications in His Name
CHARLES m English, French
From the Germanic name Karl, which was derived from a Germanic word which meant "man". (source: behindthename.com)
"...for it is the number of a man..." (Rev. 13:18)
Prince Charles of Wales = 666 - transmuting Hebrew/Greek numbering onto the English alphabet.
"...and his number is Six hundred threescore [60] and six." (Rev. 13:18.)
According to The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea by Tim Cohen:
He claims descent from David, Jesus, and Mohammed.
He wants to be the King of Europe.
He heads the United World Colleges.
He steers the environmental ethics and business agendas of over 100 of the world's largest multinational corporations.
He is credited for the success of the Rio Earth Summit and thus the Kyoto Protocol, and he has spearheaded the push for enforceable environmentalism worldwide.
He initiated the Global Security Programme and its lecture series, for which Mikhail Gorbachev has become a spokesperson.
He has partnered with the United Nations and the World Bank.
He appears to be responsible for the initiation of the current Mideast "peace process", and has been directly involved since Yitzhak Rabin's funeral.
He has taken a traceable bio-chip implant.
His media exposure has exceeded that of every other man in history.
He has a statue dedicated to him entitled, "Prince Charles, Savior of Mankind" for supposedly saving the Brazillian rainforest. In the statue he has outstretched wings
Information gleaned from other web sites about Prince Charles:
He stated in 1994 that he would be known as "The Defender of Faiths", rather than "Defender of the Faith" which had been the King's title as the titular head of the Church of Enland.
He joined the Druidic society, Gorsedd of Bards, in 2002
He received His power and authority from the "Red Dragon" in his induction ceremony to become Prince of Wales. The "red Dragon" is the symbol of Wales.
His Coat of Arms contains a great number of Biblical images, including the "Red Dragon"
Given his extensive holdings, he could be one of the richest men in the world.
There is much that is known about the bonny Prince Charles, and much more waiting to come to light. His son, Prince William also bears watching as these two figures will be impacting the lives of a great many people for years to come, especially since the tremendously popular Prince William is already considered by some to be the next King Arthur. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Prince William became King instead of Charles, which is quite possible given Charles'popularity and given his messy divorce to Lady Diana and possible implication in her demise, not to mention the long time adulterous affair he had with Camilla Parker Bowles which has now been supposedly legitimated by a wedding ceremony presided over by the controversial Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, who, while as a Bishop in the Church of Enland once publically ordained a homosexual into the priesthood.
The subject of the anti-Christ is a tricky one at best, for the role is being prepared by Satan himself, and he is the master deceiver. His desire is to rule the world and be worshipped as God, but he will come to his appointed end, whoever he is. Our job is to serve the Lord Jesus Christ and place our faith and trust in Him. He will see us through whatever Satan devises.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 7:53:54 PM
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I've heard the A/C stuff, but never considered it to be true other than wait and see. As far as his personal life he may have repented his past sins, and if so they are forgiven. Always remember Jesus has a file on everyone. Humility is a wise thing to remember as it is wise to remember you don't own God or Jesus.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 8:30:59 PM
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Hi Grate,
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Certainly not a Christian?!? I think it's interesting that you feel like you can make this judgement about someone you have never met and only know about through tabloid articles. I don't know anything about Prince Charles' spiritual life but I know that no one knows a man's heart but God.
Jesus says ye shall know them by their fruits. I've read enough about him and what he says and what he believes. I encourage you to read up on him before you judge me as being Charles' judge.
Thx,
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 8:38:06 PM
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Hi Ariel,
Good post. I read all you posted, along time ago. It was thought provoking to say the least. I hadn't thought about it till this thread.
Time is nearing it's ending, and time will tell who the AC is when he is revealed as Paul said before Christ comes .
Blessings,
Frankie
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 8:57:41 PM
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It is certainly true that we cannot know a man's heart, but we are instructed to "test the spirits, whether they be of God". Jesus told us we shall "know them by their fruits". The question then remains. What are the fruits of Prince Charles? To state just a few of his activities; He is instrumental in the "Green Movement", even as his father, Prince Phillip, oversees the World Wildlife Fund, and he has been a voice for toleration of all the world's religions, especially that of Islam. Indeed, His current trip to the USA is supposedly to push that agenda, perhaps while he also pushes "Agenda 21" and "Sustainable Development", which he fosters through the UN. Sounds quite benign, if not benevolent. All one big happy family, so to speak. However, I've done a little checking on the Bonny Prince Charles and here are some interesting facts gleaned from a Christian Web site: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/PrinceCharles/
Born: 14 November 1948
Best Known As: The Next King of England
Name at Birth: Charles Philip Arthur George Windsor
Ramifications in His Name
CHARLES m English, French
From the Germanic name Karl, which was derived from a Germanic word which meant "man". (source: behindthename.com)
"...for it is the number of a man..." (Rev. 13:18)
Prince Charles of Wales = 666 - transmuting Hebrew/Greek numbering onto the English alphabet.
"...and his number is Six hundred threescore [60] and six." (Rev. 13:18.)
According to The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea by Tim Cohen:
He claims descent from David, Jesus, and Mohammed.
He wants to be the King of Europe.
He heads the United World Colleges.
He steers the environmental ethics and business agendas of over 100 of the world's largest multinational corporations.
He is credited for the success of the Rio Earth Summit and thus the Kyoto Protocol, and he has spearheaded the push for enforceable environmentalism worldwide.
He initiated the Global Security Programme and its lecture series, for which Mikhail Gorbachev has become a spokesperson.
He has partnered with the United Nations and the World Bank.
He appears to be responsible for the initiation of the current Mideast "peace process", and has been directly involved since Yitzhak Rabin's funeral.
He has taken a traceable bio-chip implant.
His media exposure has exceeded that of every other man in history.
He has a statue dedicated to him entitled, "Prince Charles, Savior of Mankind" for supposedly saving the Brazillian rainforest. In the statue he has outstretched wings
Information gleaned from other web sites about Prince Charles:
He stated in 1994 that he would be known as "The Defender of Faiths", rather than "Defender of the Faith" which had been the King's title as the titular head of the Church of Enland.
He joined the Druidic society, Gorsedd of Bards, in 2002
He received His power and authority from the "Red Dragon" in his induction ceremony to become Prince of Wales. The "red Dragon" is the symbol of Wales.
His Coat of Arms contains a great number of Biblical images, including the "Red Dragon"
Given his extensive holdings, he could be one of the richest men in the world.
There is much that is known about the bonny Prince Charles, and much more waiting to come to light. His son, Prince William also bears watching as these two figures will be impacting the lives of a great many people for years to come, especially since the tremendously popular Prince William is already considered by some to be the next King Arthur. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Prince William became King instead of Charles, which is quite possible given Charles'popularity and given his messy divorce to Lady Diana and possible implication in her demise, not to mention the long time adulterous affair he had with Camilla Parker Bowles which has now been supposedly legitimated by a wedding ceremony presided over by the controversial Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, who, while as a Bishop in the Church of Enland once publically ordained a homosexual into the priesthood.
The subject of the anti-Christ is a tricky one at best, for the role is being prepared by Satan himself, and he is the master deceiver. His desire is to rule the world and be worshipped as God, but he will come to his appointed end, whoever he is. Our job is to serve the Lord Jesus Christ and place our faith and trust in Him. He will see us through whatever Satan devises.
In Christ,
Ariel
So this stuff is for real, I know the bible says there is three fold to this
1. The Beast
2. The Anti-christ
3. The False prophet
seeing him and Bush together today on the news sent cold chills up and down my spine and I felt like they were discussing more than what the news media is reporting, call it just a chill in the air but I really think there is more to this than what meets the eye, I know I am definately keeping an eye pealed to him a little more carefully to see what else might become on covered, I thought I read in a news paper article years ago the his son William suffered a head wound from a fall from a horse when he was a child. I just don't remember what year it was, I will try and find where I seen this, hopefully it was on the news somewhere it will be a little easier to trace.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 9:09:12 PM
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The Beast and False Prophet stuff is all real. Will happen eventually. Never wrong to keep watch. Never wrong to not let yourself be deceived by this world. If you don't worship this world or worship after this world then it becomes mighty hard for this world to deceive you.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/2/2005 10:30:46 PM
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[/quote][/quote]So this stuff is for real, I know the bible says there is three fold to this
1. The Beast
2. The Anti-christ
3. The False prophet
seeing him and Bush together today on the news sent cold chills up and down my spine and I felt like they were discussing more than what the news media is reporting, call it just a chill in the air but I really think there is more to this than what meets the eye, I know I am definately keeping an eye pealed to him a little more carefully to see what else might become on covered, I thought I read in a news paper article years ago the his son William suffered a head wound from a fall from a horse when he was a child. I just don't remember what year it was, I will try and find where I seen this, hopefully it was on the news somewhere it will be a little easier to trace.
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Dear Goingupupup,
There is a whole lot more going on with England's Royal Family than most people could possibly imagine. With their claim to the throne of David via their royal bloodline, they stand peculiarly situated to ascend to whatever position the anti-Christ would hope to attain. In fact, a great deal of the anti-Christ's PR work has already been done in advance with the release of the Da Vinci Codes and other assorted theories which supposedly reveal the Merovingian bloodline to have come through Christ via Mary Magdelene, the real "Holy Grail". How utterly blasphemous!, but what less can we expect of an anti-Christ. He will surely claim a pedigree. By claiming to be the decendent of Jesus and Mary Magdelene the anti-Christ can kill two birds with one stone. The claim first diminishes the stature of Jesus Christ, casting all sorts of doubt on the authority of Gospels, while at the same time exalts the anti-Christ into his pseudo Christ persona, being supposedly related by blood, the blood of kings, the line of David.
Consider this as well. There are some well known rabbis who believe the Mashiac ben David is already here. , meanwhile the Moslems await the Mahdi, and some believe he is already here, not to mention the ever so frequent visits of the Buddhist's Matreiya. The Masons hope to bring in the age of Solomon and Hiram Abiff, and Dominionists hope to usher in the age of Christ. It would appear that the world is poised and ready for a saviour, and given the necessary catalysts, I believe they will jump at the opportunity to be united under a single "inspired" ruler, especially if it means the end of global famine, war, and pestilence. The anti-Christ will offer peace, but in the end will bring only devastation. Whoever he may be.
Incidentally, Prince William received the near fatal head wound at the age of nine in some sort of golfing accident. The offending instrument was a golf club.
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/3/2005 8:50:21 AM
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If he does become king of England.....do you think there is a possibility of him joining England to the EU? I know that the Pound is consistently higher compared to the Euro, but not by much.
Just a thought I had reading the posts...
Not sure if I buy into the whole thing about him being the A/C. Not saying it's an impossibility, just not sure enough to weigh in.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/3/2005 11:35:01 AM
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Scripture says he will be a prince not a king. Jesus was a prince but now he is the King of Heaven. So he scripture will be fufulled perfectly. Apparently he wants to be the president of the EU and the EU is right now going to take over the Gaza strip with Israel very pleased with the agreement, and they will be replacing Blair as the President of the EU shortly, I will not be suprised if Prince Charles will take the seat as he has said he would like to hold that seat, so it could happen very soon as it is still on the rotation of 6 months for a nation head to take the EU seat, but they are changing this now as Blair and others are complaining it don't give the one in chair enough time to implement things as it would take a bit of organizing to get this deal done in the middle east (and I think the plan is set it just needs to be sprung)and the icin on the cake(false prophet)Vatican will give there blessings to them all, and will try and get christians to accept the muslims doctrines as another testament of Jesus Christ just like the Mormons say another testament of Jesus Christ but we know what danger that can get christians into. I don't know if this theory holds any water or not but it is some food for thought anyway and if it this isn't the case oh well back to the drawing board and more will be revealed.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/3/2005 12:45:38 PM
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Hi Ariel,
Good post. I read all you posted, along time ago. It was thought provoking to say the least. I hadn't thought about it till this thread.
Time is nearing it's ending, and time will tell who the AC is when he is revealed as Paul said before Christ comes .
Blessings,
Frankie
Dear Frankie,
I agree that time seems to be winding down. The frequency of catastrophic events appears to be increasing, and it all can't be attributed to "global warming". Jesus told us that when we see these things begin to come to pass, that we should lift up our heads for our redemption draws near, which is all the more reason to be found diligently serving our Lord, living out our lives in all due modesty and holiness. As Paul has said, "In the last days, perilous times shall come", and I believe that they could already be upon us.
Even so, my hope and our expectation lies in Jesus Christ, not in any potentate, president, or pope. Indeed, all hope for mankind lies in Him alone, for only through Him is Satan defeated and the accuser of our brethren cast down, eventually to be cast into the lake of fire. Nevertheless, the devil has great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time. Peter says he goes about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour, which is an interesting metaphor, since one of the two predominant images on both Prince Charles' and Prince Williams Royal Crest is a roaring lion, the other being a unicorn. There's much, much more, but alas, the time is short and I must be off.
In Christ,
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/3/2005 4:46:52 PM
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Did a little more digging today and found his geneology and he can be traced back as far as Judah. and he is involved in all the major industries and banks of our world and there is a statue made at this link, it's made in his likeness and it is named Savior of Mankind and they did put wings on it, I wouldn't of believed this but I seen it with my own eyes, the evidence keeps mounting that he could be indeed. here is the link if anyone is interested.
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/chart.html
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 3:03:05 PM
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Time for a reality break.
On the Feast of St. Elizabeth
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 3:28:24 PM
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I suffered a head wound as a child and about 7 more when hubby has dropped ceiling fans on my head. I told him, if he wants to kill me, find a less painful way.
No. I do not think Prince Charles nor his sons are the anti-Christ.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 3:34:16 PM
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how abuot referencing some CREDIBLE sources? Such as one that can back up that the statue mentioned in the afore scribed website is legit?
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